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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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paid to black

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bespoke radio

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for the masses i

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today's wednesday march 3rd 2021

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62 days into the new year only 303

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days left let's do this man

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down

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east and west north and south far and

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near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg r

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a the planet i'm yours jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing

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all right been waiting for this show

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what a great week

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tonight matthew bailey

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talking about his new book it is called

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a lot of info in this book you've got to

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get it

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talking about that it's artificial

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intelligence all night

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ethics calling the show ethics 101

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evolutionary ethics for artificial

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intelligence tomorrow

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is another fader night with open lines

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all night long

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yeah man my favorite night of the week

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well besides tonight

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that's right matthew bailey artificial

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intelligence

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and you're gonna want to listen uh very

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closely to the show tonight

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and definitely pick up his book and

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we've got

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matthew's links right there at

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all right all right uh he popped up in

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twitter today too

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as well i saw that so you can follow

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got that up and out it's uh

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it's right there okay let's see

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uh where am oh man so much breaking news

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um i'm just gonna get straight to it

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we have got uh a lot of things to talk

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uh with uh matthew later but but

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i just get cranky and it doesn't happen

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often does it it doesn't you guys

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you guys come here and hang out because

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it should have been called snapped

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microsoft in the news and this is

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if you have a website or you're dealing

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all right now the ultra millionaire tax

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that's right you've all heard about it

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trillion dollars in revenue over 10

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of americans that have a net worth below

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50 million dollars that includes me

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would have owed 5.7 billion dollars in

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uh tesla ceo elon musk would owe about

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in 2020. tax them all

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all right if you make 30 grand a year if

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you're getting taxed at 30 and somebody

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wants to hit you with more

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about this

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right and you've got to give up more

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money it

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affects you but if you're sitting on a

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billion dollars and you gotta

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you gotta get taxed some extra it

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you can survive like man i'm gonna have

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to survive on a million

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dollars a day how am i gonna do that

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yeah okay nobody's got sympathy tax them

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i say sock it to them they're not gonna

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a a three trillion dollars over ten

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it's a lot of money all right check this

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around 17 000 earthquakes

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have just hit the island nation over the

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the largest quake magnitude 5.6 on the

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richter scale occurred on the morning of

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it was the loudest in a swarm that

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nearby capital city of iraqi

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and the municipalities around it where

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i watched it i'm assuming most of you

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the spacex starship sn10 spacecraft

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touchdown successfully is pretty

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dramatic too it's pretty cool

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after a high altitude fly test flight

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today a major milestone for the company

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and it's crude mars

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ambitions but the vehicle didn't manage

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15 p.m eastern standard time today rose

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about 6.2 miles into the sky

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came back to earth for a smooth

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touchdown 6 minutes and

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then it blew up eight minutes later

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let's get to show crack and happy

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birthday to

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today ario speedwagon's dave amato

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guitar player replace gary richrath by

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the way

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back in 1989 today he's 68 years old

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tone loke remember tone loke tone look

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today is 55

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wild thing funky cold medina

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55 wonder if he's got any money left

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coldplay front man chris martin today is

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he's got some money left on this day in

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history otd

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1991 it went down

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man lapd officers beat rodney king on

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when civilian george holliday standing

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on a balcony in an apartment complex

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across the street

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focused the lens of his new video camera

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on the commotion unfolding

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fader fact the serial killer

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mad butcher of kingsbury run

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killed and dismembered 12 people in

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cleveland ohio

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in the 1930s

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gruesome he was never caught

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and that is your fader fact tonight

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matthew bailey

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is here he's talking about his new book

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inventing world 3.0 i love

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evolutionary ethics for artificial

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intelligence

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it's an amazing book uh i highly highly

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highly recommend this book we're talking

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about all of that tonight tomorrow

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night's another fader night with open

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lines all night long

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all right now uh river moon coffee

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i could not imagine a world without

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i mean i just couldn't imagine that opec

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cutting off oil i could deal with that i

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can walk

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yeah not worried about it they cut off

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whoa rivermooncoffee.com

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rivermoonwellness.com the links are over

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at jimmychurchradio.com

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all right you know

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i don't want to be the old guy in the

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room i don't want to be that dude

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i don't and i remember growing up you

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know you're 10 years old and you

291
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you see somebody that's 40 and you think

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man that's a no

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that's an old person you know you're 10

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years old you're young hip you're 15

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young hip you see somebody 40 45 old

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right i'm 57.

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and i just don't want to be the old guy

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in the room i don't want be

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i don't want to be the old person that i

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had a vision of

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when i was younger i don't want to be

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that person

303
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okay but i've been holding off about

304
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things for a while now

305
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i've been holding off but

306
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something this week

307
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pushed me over the edge yep

308
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falling down that's the movie i got

309
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michael douglas it was the news

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mr and mrs potato head

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i couldn't believe it i mean i i i've

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been holding off i've

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just just been holding off on this on

314
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holding off a lot of things

315
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have been going down leading up to mr

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the casting of the show billions i'm not

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gonna

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you know and it's just and it's not

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about

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i don't care what you do i don't care

321
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just don't care what i do or what i

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think

323
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i don't care what you do i don't care

324
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who you are live your life

325
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life is short have a good time doing it

326
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live it the way you want to live

327
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don't get involved with mr mrs potato

328
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head

329
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the line in the sand was crossed

330
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hasbro made the announcement last week

331
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i snapped they made the announcement

332
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that mr potato head would now be sold

333
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under the more

334
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neutral moniker of potato head

335
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i was like what i mean i

336
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and and most of the world by the way

337
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seriously this is taking things

338
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so hasbro after

339
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bowing to the pressure to neutralize

340
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their brand did a complete reversal a

341
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few days ago and announced that mr

342
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potato head would remain

343
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a mister and so

344
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they went too far they went too far

345
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and the canceled culture the power of

346
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these small

347
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groups and and things on the internet

348
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and just

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that want to make your life miserable to

350
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make you bend

351
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that ain't right i don't go out of

352
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my way to make somebody's life miserable

353
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i don't

354
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do it it's called respect

355
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and integrity mr potato head you can't

356
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honestly i don't get it i don't get it

357
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and i just don't want to sound old or

358
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outdated i i don't want i want to remain

359
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:06,000
the hip and cool guy

360
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that i've always been but this

361
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:13,600
gender neutral world this cancel

362
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culture place that we find ourselves in

363
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right now

364
00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:26,470
we have some actual

365
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:30,080
real world issues that we need to take

366
00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:34,950
we need to worry about opening up our

367
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schools taking care of our kids getting

368
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businesses back up and running

369
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our infrastructure jobs and unemployment

370
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the homeless situation

371
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we don't need to waste time on mr potato

372
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head

373
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anybody that wants to get a campaign

374
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:53,600
like that going mr potato

375
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:57,280
spend that energy in another area

376
00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:00,159
go make some sandwiches for the homeless

377
00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,039
build a house

378
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for a homeless person do something

379
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:07,120
constructive

380
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with your life worrying about this crap

381
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,240
it's unbelievable a couple of weeks ago

382
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i needed to sign up this is a this is a

383
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michael douglas

384
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a couple of weeks ago i needed to

385
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register

386
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and sign up with a company so i could

387
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start making payments get an account set

388
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up

389
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this was a major thing that needed to

390
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:37,039
get done for

391
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serious business and i needed to get it

392
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:48,870
i was doing the right thing and i

393
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:55,990
and then there was a

394
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:00,159
friggin gender selection

395
00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:04,159
i was like what and

396
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:12,710
i didn't have a selection

397
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:15,760
there is no button for mister seriously

398
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:20,799
anything male and here's the thing

399
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:24,080
i had to select something to move on

400
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:27,280
they wouldn't let me i couldn't do it

401
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:30,480
there wasn't a pass button there there

402
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:31,039
wasn't a

403
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:33,679
i'd rather not say button that wasn't

404
00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:34,799
there there wasn't a

405
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:38,799
none of your freaking business button no

406
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:42,000
and i thought to myself how did we get

407
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,270
i don't care what you do you want to be

408
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:53,039
represented you want your thing there

409
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,640
you want a lobby for that you want to

410
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:56,400
get it in there don't forget about

411
00:23:03,909 --> 00:22:59,520
me and who i am and who

412
00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:03,919
others are quite frankly

413
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:09,039
yeah 95 of this planet

414
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,400
gender neutral i couldn't believe it i

415
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:14,880
couldn't believe it

416
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,080
so i just closed out the page and i took

417
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my business elsewhere

418
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:21,840
and it's not that i'm the cranky old

419
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:23,919
dude i just want

420
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:26,400
my selection to be there you want yours

421
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:27,760
there that's fine

422
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:31,280
cool with it go life is

423
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:34,559
short don't forget about me

424
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i mean today

425
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:45,430
today you can't crack a joke without

426
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,480
getting attacked

427
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,640
you can't comment without getting

428
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:50,799
attacked you can't

429
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:54,240
name you can't name without getting

430
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:55,279
attacked

431
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:01,679
can't have an opinion without getting in

432
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:04,799
just canceled

433
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:07,919
in fact right now

434
00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:16,549
that's wrong

435
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:19,510
what do we where are we going with this

436
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:20,240
people

437
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:23,279
listen to me what are we gonna do with

438
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:25,039
chinese food

439
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:28,640
gonna cancel that i'm gonna cancel that

440
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:33,120
italian food is that next

441
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:41,590
john greenwald has a website called the

442
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:42,320
black

443
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:46,240
vault uh-oh

444
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:49,520
right that's where we're headed

445
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:54,400
this show is called fade to black

446
00:25:02,470 --> 00:24:57,760
shall we now have to call our show uh

447
00:25:10,350 --> 00:25:07,669
friggin angry to top it all off

448
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:10,360
to top it all off where we've got

449
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,960
everything in the world to worry about

450
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,360
right now

451
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:17,840
to top it all off at least this week who

452
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:20,080
knows what's going to go down next week

453
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,990
six of his books will no longer be

454
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:33,600
published and okay

455
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,640
all right all right on the surface this

456
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:38,799
would make anyone mad it's dr

457
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:42,880
seuss but a deeper dive into why

458
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:47,039
and things uh made some sense to me

459
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:50,880
i understand some racism a harsh racism

460
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:52,720
shouldn't be there some illustrations

461
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:53,919
shouldn't be there

462
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:57,120
words i i get that

463
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:00,400
but i understand i do

464
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,080
okay but first off the six

465
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,559
cancelled books were titles that nobody

466
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:08,080
has ever heard of

467
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:11,120
that's number one and number two

468
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,960
and most importantly if as a publisher

469
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:17,200
you don't want to continue publishing a

470
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:18,559
book well

471
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:21,760
stop you do it all the time

472
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:25,679
nobody cares it isn't news

473
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:28,880
but the cancel culture wants

474
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:37,669
if this wasn't announced

475
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:41,039
nobody would have known i really

476
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:44,400
doubt there would be huge

477
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:48,240
public outrage about

478
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:51,760
mc elegance pool never heard of that

479
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:52,720
book

480
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:56,240
on beyond zebra never heard of that one

481
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:57,520
either

482
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:00,720
scrambled eggs super

483
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:09,190
and the cat's quizzer what

484
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:12,720
nobody oh so

485
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:20,149
it's not news you don't want if the

486
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,440
schools don't want the book

487
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,520
write it off cancel it nobody wants to

488
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:25,360
order the book the numbers are down

489
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,399
whatever stop publishing it right

490
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,559
librarian ah there's some weird

491
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,159
illustrations in this book

492
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:35,279
now we don't need that in here nah nah

493
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:37,039
we're not gonna order those this year

494
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:40,320
i doubt anybody would have known that

495
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,480
i could just imagine the outrage right

496
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:44,159
now

497
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:47,200
they dropped the cat's quizzer man they

498
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:47,440
do

499
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:49,120
they dropped it they're not publishing

500
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,799
it anymore i'm gonna

501
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:52,799
i've that's it i'm going to get a

502
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,559
campaign going i'm going to raise some

503
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:57,200
money going to get the publisher to

504
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:01,279
no nobody cares but the cancel culture

505
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:04,559
wants to make this news and that is

506
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:05,679
wrong

507
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,600
we've got everything else that we are

508
00:28:12,909 --> 00:28:09,440
dealing with right now

509
00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:12,919
i mean tremendous huge

510
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:15,919
life-altering situations that we have to

511
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:18,559
deal with in 2021

512
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:21,200
and i'm done with it i don't care i

513
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:22,159
don't care about

514
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:25,919
cancer culture

515
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:30,399
and shaming and canceling doctors

516
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,000
i don't care about these things i don't

517
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:37,200
i honestly don't it's starting to

518
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,559
affect me and that's what's not cool

519
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:42,399
if you want to go and do your thing you

520
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:44,000
want you want to be gender

521
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:46,080
neutral i don't even know what kind of

522
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:48,000
nouns or pronouns or adjectives or

523
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:49,840
whatever and just scriptures and

524
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,039
descriptors and whatever if that

525
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:55,679
that's important to you if it's

526
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:56,399
important to you

527
00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:00,320
go do it don't take it away from me

528
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,320
because that's what happened and that's

529
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:03,760
what's not cool

530
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,159
it has gotten to this point and i don't

531
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,000
know how we got here

532
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:10,000
with everything else that's going on i

533
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:11,600
cannot believe that there are people out

534
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,080
there there

535
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,120
are groups that make this

536
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:18,000
their life when we've got homeless

537
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,120
unemployment

538
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:22,159
um unpaid rents and

539
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:25,440
jobs and closing restaurants

540
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:28,799
and things of just crazy

541
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,559
stuff going down in this country have

542
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:32,640
you seen the homeless situation that we

543
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:34,159
are dealing with right now

544
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:37,600
nobody seems to care nobody seems to

545
00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:39,440
care in the united states

546
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:44,520
but you want to get into mr potato head

547
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,279
unbelievable so yeah i'm going to be the

548
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:49,360
cranky old dude

549
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,480
i'm entitled and you know what i hate i

550
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,440
hate it when i'm right i don't want to

551
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:57,600
be right on subjects like this i should

552
00:30:01,269 --> 00:30:00,320
never have to talk about it i'm right

553
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:01,279
right now

554
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,480
i'm right this is fade to black i

555
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:07,120
am your host jimmy church tonight

556
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:08,720
matthew bailey

557
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,120
talking about artificial intelligence

558
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:13,919
all night long this is the book

559
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:16,480
it's incredible it's it's an incredible

560
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:17,600
read

561
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:19,679
it's a lot it's a lot to digest well

562
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:22,960
written though

563
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,159
thick book but in a great easy read

564
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,600
matthew bailey is next the book is

565
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,440
inventing world 3.0

566
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,440
evolutionary ethics for artificial

567
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,919
intelligence tomorrow is fader night

568
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:36,960
open lines

569
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:40,240
all night long i'll be right back with

570
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:41,840
matthew bailey i'm yours to be church

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight matthew bailey

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is here talking about his new book i'm

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holding it up to the camera for

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everybody

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it's an amazing book and it's called an

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inventive

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world 3.0 evolutionary ethics for

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artificial intelligence

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mine's autographed pretty cool pretty

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cool matthew bailey is here

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and he's an internationally recognized

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pioneer and authority in the fields of

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innovation artificial intelligence smart

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cities and the internet of things

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everything we talk about on this show

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oh man the result of his work has guided

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governments

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tech giants enable new technologies and

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standards that have

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stimulated global or a meaningful

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partnership between humanity

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and the digital world he is the co-chair

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of

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an artificial intelligence smart city

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super computing cluster

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and also a smart region data hub

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initiative he is the global ambassador

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of an artificial intelligence innovation

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district for a medical technology city

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in mual kenya now before i continue

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i just want to say this he has been

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advising government

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uh he is an executive director

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of ai for a u.s startup and his

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knowledge into this is above

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mind i have been studying artificial

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intelligence for a very long time and

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talking about it on this show and to

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have somebody of matthew's caliber

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joining us is an honor and a privilege i

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would like to welcome for the first time

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to fade to black

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matthew bailey matthew good evening my

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man how are you

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good evening jimmy it's so great to be

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here thank you very much for having me

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on

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well thank you thank you and this is uh

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it's your first time on the show so you

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get the first time guest disclaimer

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so let's get that out of the way matthew

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it's it's just you and i sitting on my

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couch having a conversation as friends

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and when the conversation starts it

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starts where it ends and ends

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but we're gonna end his friends there

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you go you ready

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i'm ready now uh normally

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i would uh do a deep dive

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into your childhood right now and

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introduce you to the world and

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figure out how you got into the world of

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computers and

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although i want to do that to some

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degree we have so much to discuss

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tonight

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i don't want to run out of time and

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leave subjects on the table

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i don't think that uh right now for the

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world there isn't a more

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important subject than artificial

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intelligence because it

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affects everybody that is on the

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internet right now

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and beyond which is four and a half

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billion

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people and it's a very very important

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subject

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but um i'm gonna start here

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were you a were you a nerd were you a

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when i was young yes uh my first

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computer was a spectrum 48k

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uh from the sinclair corporation where i

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was programming

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in uh um basic uh

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creating computer games jimmy um so yes

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i've always been under quite frankly

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so you did you went you did basic and

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cobalt

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and and and you went through that world

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first punch cards did you do that too

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no no i was that was just before my time

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jimmy okay um

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but uh assembler uh basic

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pascal c c plus plus you name it

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java um yeah i've done it all quite

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frankly

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yeah i took uh a computer uh

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class in 1978.

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and my teacher i'll never forget him uh

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he's no longer with this

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william drag seth dude was the coolest

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ever

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so i i get into the class and i'm ready

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man

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you know it's 1978 so you need to think

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about that for a second

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and i get into the class and we're

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programming in basic

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and we have to do a basic computer game

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and i forget what it was but it was like

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some math thing and then we had to punch

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cards

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i was like

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i'm out this ain't fun this isn't

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i i thought uh you know i was picturing

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nasa

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you know i you know uh but uh but i got

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my feet wet

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very early on and i learned how to

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program in basic and cobol

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and um i understand binary today

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the the basic concepts of computers the

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very basic basics

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i get that today kids come in

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and everything is already done for them

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right programming writes itself

805
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you can actually do it that way well

806
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yeah

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00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:37,440
there's actually artificial intelligence

808
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that can actually generate code and

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programs itself

810
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:42,720
that's right which is which is crazy

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right

812
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:46,079
um and it's getting all everything's

813
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getting more automated jimmy

814
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and uh now's the time for us to have a

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philosophical conversation about

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the purpose of artificial intelligence

817
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,920
and what does that mean for the destiny

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of humanity

819
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,319
yes and if i could matthew i need to get

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you closer to your microphone

821
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,000
um as as close as possible

822
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,000
um i'm just gonna let everybody know

823
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:09,920
matthew's audio is great

824
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:13,280
it's he's using his laptop uh his mac

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and instead of a studio mic setup and so

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00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:17,040
that's

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00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,640
you're hearing but

828
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:22,240
we'll take care of that you'll get used

829
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:24,480
to it as the show moves on

830
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:29,040
um now okay we have um

831
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:32,079
we have a situation here

832
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:35,599
that your book is

833
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:39,119
suggesting uh a path forward

834
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,480
for for ethics in the artificial

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00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:44,240
intelligence

836
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:47,200
community and how to establish that that

837
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:48,400
is something we have talked

838
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:51,520
a lot about on this show um

839
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:55,119
now i'm gonna actually start with this

840
00:42:02,069 --> 00:41:58,640
that's a difficult road to go on and the

841
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:02,079
reason why i suggest that is that the

842
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,200
global powers that are working on

843
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:08,240
artificial intelligence right now they

844
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:10,960
could give a crap about ethics

845
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:14,000
in my opinion because they

846
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:17,839
they are in a race to get to agi

847
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,040
to get you know to get to the the holy

848
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,200
grail before anybody else

849
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:25,440
and ethics is just going to get in the

850
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:26,240
way

851
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:34,950
yes and no so

852
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,160
the first thing is um ai is already in

853
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:39,920
our lives jimmy

854
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:44,160
it's already here and so the question is

855
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,839
what's the next step for artificial

856
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:48,079
intelligence and how can the general

857
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:49,839
public have a voice in shaping

858
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:51,280
artificial intelligence

859
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,599
and that's why ethics are so important

860
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:55,119
there's a global movement

861
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:58,000
in ethics called ai ethics so if we look

862
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:58,880
at big tech

863
00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:00,480
which i think is your question is that

864
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,160
right um

865
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:04,000
big tech are already using ai to

866
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:05,520
manipulate the social media

867
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:09,200
we know that um but i think that what

868
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:10,640
we're going to see

869
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,920
is a real issue between

870
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:16,079
china and the united states of america

871
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:19,440
over the battle for ai prominence

872
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:22,560
now china take

873
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:26,000
data which is used to train aig

874
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:27,520
from their citizens without their

875
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:29,119
permission or their knowledge

876
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:31,839
now the united states is a democracy

877
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:32,720
okay

878
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,280
so what that means is how can the united

879
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,520
states get access to vast trenches of

880
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,560
data

881
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:40,640
with permission from the citizens in

882
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:41,680
order to stay

883
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:44,240
in line with china or even get ahead

884
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,280
with china

885
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:47,760
so the conversation of ethics of data

886
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:50,079
ownership and artificial intelligence

887
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:53,839
is a must-have conversation if america

888
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,480
is to truly compete in a democratic

889
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:59,440
fashion with china and to show that

890
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:00,560
democracy

891
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:03,680
is better than communist okay

892
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:07,200
again a great uh

893
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:10,240
a great idea and on the surface

894
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:13,040
right we need to have this but you just

895
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:13,839
mentioned

896
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:16,960
uh one of the most

897
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,440
important situations that we find

898
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:21,280
ourselves in today

899
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:25,119
ai that drives social media

900
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:28,160
uh nearly burnt down the planet in the

901
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:30,000
last four years

902
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:33,920
causing huge swaths of social divide

903
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:37,040
and anger and and everything else where

904
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:38,079
people are living

905
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:42,400
in these bubbles how do we at this point

906
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,520
correct that before we move forward

907
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,560
how do we get ethics into that part of

908
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:50,720
social media to fix

909
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:53,599
that okay that's a great question and

910
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:54,240
it's

911
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:58,240
a question

912
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:01,119
if ethics are in the silicon of

913
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:02,400
computing chips

914
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:05,040
of every single computer doesn't that

915
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:06,960
make big tech irrelevant

916
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:09,520
doesn't that make the agenda of big tech

917
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:10,640
to align

918
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,680
with ethics because it's programmed into

919
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:15,119
the silicon or the quantum or the

920
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,880
optical computing

921
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,880
so that's one way that we can change

922
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,920
things

923
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,920
big tech is like the east india

924
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:23,440
corporation you remember that

925
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:26,880
i do one right okay jimmy

926
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,200
more powerful than governments and

927
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:31,520
that's where big tech is at the moment

928
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:34,720
they're effectively dominating the world

929
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:37,200
and that has to change because they work

930
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,680
in an undemocratic fashion

931
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:41,359
so there's a number of ways that we can

932
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:43,280
influence big tech one is

933
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:45,200
we change the silicon with the ethics

934
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:46,960
and make sure ethics are in there

935
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:50,079
which forces every software that's above

936
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:50,560
the

937
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:53,680
ethics

938
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:55,599
the second thing is government steps

939
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,720
steps up either

940
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:58,640
federally or locally a bit like

941
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,000
washington state have done

942
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:02,079
recently in their announcements where

943
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:03,280
they said

944
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,319
that no federal government ai can be

945
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,040
deployed in the entire state

946
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,520
unless it honors the cultural diversity

947
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:13,599
of their citizens

948
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:17,040
now that's interesting isn't it so

949
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:18,400
the other thing that's going to change

950
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:20,800
big tech is this

951
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:23,280
because no one trusts big tech who is

952
00:46:26,829 --> 00:46:23,920
the us

953
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,839
going to go to to innovate artificial

954
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:28,640
intelligence is it going to be the

955
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,520
military

956
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,440
is it going to be academia or is it

957
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:34,160
going to be a new type of ethical

958
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:37,200
uh business collective that

959
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:40,240
have to conform to ethics jimmy and

960
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,599
only deliver ethical ai so i think

961
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,119
there's a number of ways

962
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,520
in which we can circumvent the east the

963
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,920
modern east india corporation

964
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:51,760
the other thing is jimmy is the book

965
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,119
explains how people

966
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,680
and communities and cities can innovate

967
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:57,200
their own ethical artificial

968
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,079
intelligence

969
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:00,560
without the need of big tech which gives

970
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:01,680
them the freedom

971
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:05,280
to innovate their future well we have um

972
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,119
yes right yes and we know

973
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,880
we know that all of this needs to be

974
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:12,960
done but

975
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:16,480
but google alphabet uh zuckerberg

976
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:19,839
uh and and any other uh you could

977
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,160
probably throw in twitter and

978
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:24,000
and anybody else out there that is in

979
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:26,000
the game right now

980
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:29,280
they really don't care number one i

981
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:30,720
don't think zuckerberg cares what the

982
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:31,760
united states

983
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:34,480
could suggest that they could do to him

984
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:36,839
i really don't

985
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:40,240
yeah but let me but let me finish

986
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:43,599
and so by by suggesting something like

987
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:44,160
that

988
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:47,760
we allowed it to get out of control

989
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:51,280
because we went through a fun phase

990
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:54,559
right we went through a fun phase 1995

991
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:57,359
to 2000 in social media and the newness

992
00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:58,319
of the internet

993
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:01,599
you know it was fun ha ha ha everybody

994
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,040
had a good time

995
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,760
what we didn't know was that the

996
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:06,880
methodology

997
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:09,760
of monetizing the internet and these

998
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,319
very

999
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:13,119
small scripts that were out there

1000
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,000
figuring out

1001
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,319
people's individual likes and needs and

1002
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:18,400
so it could be monetized

1003
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,480
would ultimately turn into what it

1004
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:22,480
turned into today

1005
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,520
and they can't control it anymore so

1006
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,800
right and so yeah yeah

1007
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:33,280
how do we undo that and how do we

1008
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:34,000
convince

1009
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:37,839
people that this is a necessity

1010
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,040
well first of all is that what's the

1011
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:43,520
we know that social media and the

1012
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,720
digital world

1013
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,720
is changing our brain patterns and

1014
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:48,640
influencing our moves

1015
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,319
okay that's not healthy that is not part

1016
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,880
of a democratic society

1017
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:57,119
which should be committed to we the

1018
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:59,119
people where everybody thrive

1019
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,640
you know jimmy i think we need to go

1020
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,559
back to the constitution sometimes

1021
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:04,079
and we need to look at what was the

1022
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:05,920
purpose of the forefathers

1023
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:08,800
okay what was their intent and it wasn't

1024
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:09,599
for the

1025
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:13,920
modern east india company to emerge

1026
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:17,920
so from a health perspective jimmy

1027
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:21,760
we have to look at big tech and say

1028
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:25,200
this ain't helping this is not helping

1029
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:28,000
society to be in well-being

1030
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:29,680
and so i think there's a number of

1031
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:31,280
factors that are coming in

1032
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:34,800
where big tech will be forced to change

1033
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:37,200
or become irrelevant and how we make

1034
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:39,200
them irrelevant is this

1035
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:41,760
as we start to invent evolution as we

1036
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:42,240
start

1037
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,520
to invent ethics and ethical ai

1038
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:47,680
that opens up new types of commercial

1039
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:48,559
markets

1040
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:51,440
it brings trust into the general public

1041
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,559
and therefore

1042
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:54,559
the general public are playing with

1043
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,079
trustworthy ai

1044
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:58,480
and not with the old controlling

1045
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:01,599
manipulative ai does that make sense

1046
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:05,119
it does it does and if we didn't

1047
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:08,880
uh to me if we didn't spend the last uh

1048
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,520
20 years of allowing it to get out of

1049
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:13,520
control

1050
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:16,720
then i think it would be an easier uh

1051
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:20,160
battle because it is we are talking

1052
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,640
about

1053
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:23,280
huge companies now this is the thing

1054
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:23,920
let's uh

1055
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:28,240
let's back up artificial intelligence

1056
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:31,359
is multifaceted there's different

1057
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:35,200
layers of it agi

1058
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:38,160
the general intelligence aspect of it

1059
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:38,640
where

1060
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:42,640
i'm definitely um an average person

1061
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:45,680
right so you know

1062
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:48,880
so let's just say a computer that could

1063
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,160
think as well as me all right

1064
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,640
let's just let's that that's the

1065
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:56,640
standard it's a low one

1066
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:00,079
but let's go with that standard the race

1067
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:04,480
is to get somebody to get to my brain

1068
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:07,760
first right that's that's the race right

1069
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:08,720
now

1070
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:12,000
but those out there like sam harris and

1071
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,040
others are suggesting that

1072
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:17,760
once you get to the jimmy church level

1073
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:18,960
brain

1074
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:22,400
you win the world

1075
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,880
nothing can touch you at that point and

1076
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,880
that's the race because there is no

1077
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:28,880
second place

1078
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:32,160
right and how do we how do we suggest

1079
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:35,359
ethics into this race

1080
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,280
of getting to agi that that's

1081
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:41,839
that's the that's the uphill battle i

1082
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:42,720
don't think uh

1083
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:45,839
darpa or google or or

1084
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:48,800
china is concerned about ethics because

1085
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:50,000
they know if we get

1086
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:53,680
there first they lose russia knows this

1087
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:55,359
too as well

1088
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:57,520
yeah yeah yeah russia are doing a lot in

1089
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,559
ai as well

1090
00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,720
yeah well what happens if the race to

1091
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:02,240
agi actually

1092
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:05,520
is a false paradigm what happens

1093
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:08,720
if um artificial intelligence itself

1094
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:10,800
will never attain consciousness if we

1095
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:12,000
look at the dalai lama

1096
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:14,240
right the dalai lama says consciousness

1097
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:15,359
is life itself

1098
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:18,240
right even neuroscience in the western

1099
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:19,119
society

1100
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:21,599
agrees so consciousness is a complete

1101
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:22,640
false paradigm

1102
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,160
right now if we look at self-awareness

1103
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,480
that's different and i believe that ai

1104
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:30,720
will have some form of self-awareness

1105
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:33,599
maybe not of itself but of the human

1106
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,640
society

1107
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:36,160
and the different aspects of human

1108
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,920
society so

1109
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,280
i think we need to be a little bit

1110
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:41,359
pragmatic here is that

1111
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:44,240
i think that consciousness in ai is a

1112
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:45,680
false paradigm

1113
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:48,160
now are there companies going at that of

1114
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:48,800
course

1115
00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:50,720
ray kurzweil who talks about the

1116
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:52,319
technology singularity

1117
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:54,960
the book is about how to change that

1118
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:55,520
into

1119
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,880
a human-centric singularity where ai

1120
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,880
supports that dharma

1121
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,720
enhances the life experience of the

1122
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,319
human which actually could be a

1123
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:06,319
self-actualizing society

1124
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:08,800
now the other thing jimmy is this is the

1125
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:09,680
ai

1126
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:11,440
machine learning deep learning neural

1127
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:13,440
nets etc etc is great

1128
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:15,680
at logical reasoning faster than the

1129
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,040
human brain

1130
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:19,599
okay but when it comes to jimmy church's

1131
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:20,800
amazing brain

1132
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:23,920
the creativity in there jimmy i don't

1133
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,200
think it's going to get there for

1134
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:26,960
decades and decades

1135
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:29,760
so if we look at the logical reasoning

1136
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,319
and the fast decision making that ai can

1137
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:34,640
can do today and will do over the next

1138
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decade

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that's the competition it is not about

1140
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consciousness

1141
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:42,800
well um uh so if we

1142
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:46,319
set up you you have um

1143
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:49,680
uh you've broken it down into three

1144
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:50,319
levels

1145
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:54,079
right 1.0 where we are now today 2.0

1146
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:58,160
and then 3.0 nirvana right we'll call it

1147
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,119
three points and uh you know and trying

1148
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:03,440
to get from 1.0 to 3.0

1149
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:06,720
and 2.0 is like a staging area where

1150
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:10,000
things are evolving and it's a great way

1151
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,680
to look at this and i like the way it's

1152
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:13,520
presented in the book

1153
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:16,880
um i want to clearly define

1154
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:20,640
1.0 2.0 and 3.0 for the listeners

1155
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:23,200
because the book is called 3.0

1156
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:27,200
and you talk a lot about 1.0 in the book

1157
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:30,880
where we are today and the 2.0 part of

1158
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:33,040
it the staging area in the middle

1159
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,680
uh which we may remain the longest until

1160
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:37,520
we get to 3.0

1161
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:40,160
um i want to get to these clearly

1162
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:41,040
defined

1163
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:44,799
versions of us 1.0 2.0 and 3.0

1164
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:48,160
because in a weird way i almost

1165
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,240
see us as 2.0

1166
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:55,200
i think that we have evolved into that

1167
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:55,839
we're like

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at the edge of 2.0

1169
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:02,160
and i think that we have left 1.0 that's

1170
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:03,520
that's my take

1171
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:07,680
uh what is world 1.0

1172
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:11,440
well um okay so in world 1.0

1173
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:14,720
artificial intelligence isn't being

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dedicated to find balance with our

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environment

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00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,640
and to restore harmony to our

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00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:22,400
environment because if our environment

1178
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:23,760
flourishes jimmy

1179
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:26,079
will be flourished as a society that is

1180
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,359
a fact

1181
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:29,920
um it's not being used to deal with the

1182
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,480
un

1183
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:33,440
sustainability development goals or 17

1184
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,240
of them right

1185
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:36,559
which is about peace and peace justice

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00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:37,440
social

1187
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:39,920
equity there's all sorts of challenges

1188
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:41,040
we have as a human

1189
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:43,839
society that we'd rather invest at the

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00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:44,319
moment

1191
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:46,240
in world 1.0 which is where we're at

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00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,760
today in

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00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:49,760
getting more bang for the booking social

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00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:52,000
media getting those advertisements to us

1195
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:52,480
and

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00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:55,760
forcing us to be clickbait in world 1.0

1197
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:58,079
google searches us we do not search

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00:56:01,990 --> 00:55:59,200
google

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00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:02,000
and so we're in the industrial mindset

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00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,119
in 1.0

1201
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:05,520
we think it's all about the dollar but

1202
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:07,280
that's just being lemmings

1203
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,240
heading towards a cliff it's idiocracy

1204
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:12,160
so in world 1.0

1205
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,440
um which is today uh

1206
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:17,920
dead our vision for artificial

1207
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:18,640
intelligence

1208
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,760
is not aligned with uh our society

1209
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:23,040
thriving and our planet

1210
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:26,400
fighting um it's uh the computing

1211
00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:27,200
infrastructure

1212
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:29,839
is controlled by big tech okay so

1213
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:32,240
there's no democratization of ownership

1214
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:35,119
of computing systems and also services

1215
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:36,400
and we've seen this with

1216
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:39,040
big tech being fined for uh uh

1217
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:40,559
competitive problems

1218
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,680
um and we don't have democratization of

1219
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,680
innovation i.e big tech controls

1220
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:47,040
innovation

1221
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:50,799
so that is world 1.0 that is today

1222
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,000
ai ethics are not standard that is today

1223
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:56,880
so we're in 1.0 but the good news is

1224
00:57:02,789 --> 00:56:59,920
it's causing us so much pain we say

1225
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:02,799
let's do something different and that's

1226
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,160
where we decide

1227
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,559
that the human destiny basically needs

1228
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:08,000
to be different and we bring

1229
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:11,599
ai to help us to moving to 2.0 and it's

1230
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:13,440
a 3.0

1231
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:17,520
now yes and that's why i would suggest

1232
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:21,040
we are entering into 2.0 now

1233
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:23,359
because we're talking about these issues

1234
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:24,160
we would be

1235
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:30,880
understand these issues right so yeah

1236
00:57:38,829 --> 00:57:31,599
that makes

1237
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:41,430
purgatory

1238
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:47,440
2.0 the staging area uh what is 2.0

1239
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:51,119
2.0 there's been a transition

1240
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:53,920
and i think your audience will like this

1241
00:58:09,670 --> 00:57:54,240
i

1242
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:09,680
our values change our purpose changes

1243
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:12,960
so in 2.0 what we decide to do

1244
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:15,359
is to move shift the world into a

1245
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,799
different destiny

1246
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,400
from where it's going now which has been

1247
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,240
driven by the industrial mindset

1248
00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:23,280
so in 2.0 people start to have

1249
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:25,920
agency of their data yes jimmy people

1250
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:28,480
start to own their own data and its own

1251
00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:30,559
governance right which is really

1252
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:33,359
important so tim berners-lee who

1253
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:35,760
invented the world wide web has launched

1254
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:37,119
a company

1255
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:39,520
for a new world wide web and internet

1256
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:41,359
where people own their data

1257
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:44,160
this is the future right the world 2.0

1258
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:45,599
is already starting to happen so you're

1259
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:46,160
right

1260
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:48,480
we're on the brink of it in two point

1261
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:49,760
lords

1262
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:51,680
intelligence is starting to be uh

1263
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:53,200
innovated by

1264
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,359
other than big tech jimmy it's been

1265
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,200
innovated by lots of startups

1266
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:59,680
yeah the general public like finland one

1267
00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:00,720
percent of finland

1268
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:02,559
and the general population jimmy are

1269
00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:03,760
learning to program

1270
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:06,880
ai right so there's more and more people

1271
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:09,040
participating in innovating ai

1272
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:12,240
this is in world war 2.0 and what we

1273
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:12,799
start

1274
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:16,640
our own personal

1275
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:19,280
ai or digital body or digital angel in

1276
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,160
the words of jay

1277
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:23,280
wyden which is a great term where ai

1278
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:26,880
starts to be uh as a well-being guardian

1279
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:29,200
in our lives and actually protects us

1280
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:33,119
from an orwellian ai-centric society

1281
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:36,000
what we're also doing is investing in ai

1282
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:36,640
jimmy

1283
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,160
to solve the unsdgs and to start to deal

1284
00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:42,240
with the real issues we have within

1285
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:43,280
society

1286
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:45,760
and the cultural divides that we have

1287
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,559
that's uh

1288
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:48,720
a great spot right there to take a break

1289
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:49,839
let's get our break

1290
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:52,319
in our guest tonight matthew bailey the

1291
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,040
new book

1292
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is called inventing world 3.0 it's so

1293
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:56,799
new

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01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:01,119
we've got references uh to 2020

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01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:02,960
and what we just went through in the

1296
01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:04,880
book it's a great book it's a great read

1297
01:01:05,190 --> 01:00:05,119
i

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[Music]

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welcome back i am your host jimmy church

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01:05:31,670 --> 01:05:29,599
this is fade to black

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01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:31,680
tonight matthew bailey is here we are

1406
01:05:35,109 --> 01:05:32,960
discussing

1407
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:35,119
artificial intelligence and his new book

1408
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:36,240
inventing world

1409
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:39,920
3.0 evolutionary ethics for artificial

1410
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:42,240
intelligence the links for the book

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are over on our website i've got it up

1412
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:46,079
in twitter too as well

1413
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:48,720
and uh it is a great read and continuing

1414
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:51,039
the conversation we just went through

1415
01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:54,720
world 1.0 matthew world 2.0

1416
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:58,960
and now we are at world 3.0 uh the

1417
01:06:03,349 --> 01:06:00,240
ultimate goal what is

1418
01:06:06,710 --> 01:06:03,359
uh what does that consist of

1419
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:06,720
yeah thanks jimmy so the reason why i

1420
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:09,440
use the word evolutionary ethics because

1421
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:11,119
artificial intelligence

1422
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:14,240
itself is supporting the evolution of

1423
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:14,960
the human

1424
01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:17,119
destiny not controlling it but

1425
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:18,319
supporting it

1426
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:22,319
so in world 3.0 this is what we've done

1427
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:25,680
we've artificial intelligence has

1428
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:27,920
brought balance back to the environment

1429
01:06:30,789 --> 01:06:29,920
both as a local level a regional level

1430
01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:30,799
at national level

1431
01:06:37,829 --> 01:06:34,720
and also as a global level it's also

1432
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:37,839
solved issues with around cultural

1433
01:06:45,109 --> 01:06:42,400
lack of cultural diversity it has also

1434
01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:45,119
become a guardian for every single

1435
01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:47,359
person to honor their well-being their

1436
01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:48,559
sovereignty

1437
01:06:54,510 --> 01:06:51,680
and so that everybody is now living

1438
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:54,520
if they choose a dharmic or a

1439
01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:56,319
self-actualized life

1440
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,599
i.e the human experience is liberated

1441
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:01,680
potentially jimmy to explore

1442
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:02,640
consciousness

1443
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:05,200
itself from a human point of view so

1444
01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:06,480
artificial intelligence

1445
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:08,799
is literally helping governments helping

1446
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:11,039
to run society at lightning speed

1447
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:13,200
it is literally liberating us from the

1448
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:15,200
challenges of world 1.0

1449
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:18,640
so we are free to invent beyond

1450
01:07:26,789 --> 01:07:22,400
will 3.0 the uh

1451
01:07:31,349 --> 01:07:26,799
the dream of that is cool

1452
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:31,359
but how do uh the rules committee

1453
01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:34,720
if you will uh set up the standards

1454
01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:37,839
is it written into the software or

1455
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:41,599
is there a hardware solution where

1456
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:44,720
uh that would come into play and

1457
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,680
would eliminate some of the issues with

1458
01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:49,520
the software

1459
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,599
so that's a great question so in the

1460
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:53,520
book i talk about a new form of

1461
01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:54,880
artificial intelligence called

1462
01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:56,559
evolutionary ai

1463
01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:00,160
which has ethics encoded in its digital

1464
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:01,440
genetics

1465
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:04,480
so we have an artificial intelligence

1466
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:05,039
that has

1467
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:08,480
ethics within its actual digital dna

1468
01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:09,280
jimmy

1469
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:12,559
so what that means is this ai when it's

1470
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:14,720
in society and all these progeny

1471
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:17,279
is honoring our ethics our cultures our

1472
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:18,719
beliefs our sovereignty

1473
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:21,839
and our virtues who owns this

1474
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:24,719
who runs this who's the rules committee

1475
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:26,640
the book reveals how people

1476
01:08:32,149 --> 01:08:29,839
communities cities regions

1477
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:32,159
can be their own rules committee for

1478
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:33,040
this new

1479
01:08:37,749 --> 01:08:35,600
evolutionary ai and they don't have to

1480
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:37,759
wait for government

1481
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:40,239
so with washington state who recently

1482
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:41,759
announced a policy

1483
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:44,080
that no ai for the federal government

1484
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,440
could be deployed

1485
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:48,239
that had bias and didn't honor the

1486
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,319
cultural diversity of their citizens

1487
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:53,040
they can put a digital border around

1488
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:54,640
washington state jimmy

1489
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:57,120
and do a digital citizen test to ensure

1490
01:09:02,390 --> 01:08:58,719
that only ai

1491
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:02,400
that is ethically compliant is operating

1492
01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:04,799
in their jurisdictions and this is where

1493
01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:06,159
the game changes

1494
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:08,799
where the power comes from is removed

1495
01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:10,880
from big tech and governments

1496
01:09:17,630 --> 01:09:14,159
and put into the hands of the people now

1497
01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:17,640
how do we prevent

1498
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,520
non-ethical ai

1499
01:09:23,780 --> 01:09:23,199
well you can't it's already exists yeah

1500
01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:23,790
that's right

1501
01:09:34,390 --> 01:09:32,550
okay i wanted to uh we're going to stay

1502
01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:34,400
right here on this subject

1503
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:38,319
uh if we go back and look at you know

1504
01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:39,040
the now

1505
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:42,080
infamous not famous infamous

1506
01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:45,600
uh twitter bot artificial ai

1507
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,799
uh that was created right so its own

1508
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:50,719
twitter account

1509
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:54,000
which started off with uh butterflies

1510
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:55,760
and unicorns

1511
01:10:02,470 --> 01:09:58,800
right literally it was just

1512
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:02,480
and quickly turned into

1513
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:05,920
one owl-mouthed argumentative

1514
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:09,840
uh uh black spot

1515
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:12,640
of the internet that the account had to

1516
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:13,440
quickly

1517
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:16,560
get removed is that

1518
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:20,080
human nature right where it doesn't

1519
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:20,640
matter

1520
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:24,159
how you write the ethics into

1521
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:27,280
right the artificial intelligence that

1522
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:30,480
we are who we are right and that it's

1523
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:31,760
going to go that

1524
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,760
we're going to discuss consciousness in

1525
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:35,360
just a second because i think that comes

1526
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:37,120
into play too

1527
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:40,080
but it's going to go in the direction it

1528
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:41,280
wants to go into

1529
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:43,920
because it was written by us to begin

1530
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:45,440
with

1531
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:46,719
well these are good questions aren't

1532
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:48,480
they and that was uh that was that

1533
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:50,800
chatbot was a disaster for what we call

1534
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:52,800
conversational ai jimmy

1535
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:56,159
um and and so there were no ethics

1536
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:57,280
associated with this

1537
01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:59,520
it was huge data sets that were trained

1538
01:11:02,070 --> 01:11:01,440
i was very surprised that they went

1539
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:02,080
public

1540
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,320
without testing it private first it was

1541
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:06,080
a bit of a silly thing to do

1542
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:08,960
and so this mistake jimmy is putting

1543
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:09,600
fear

1544
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:12,320
into the minds of people and also he's

1545
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,080
giving ai a bad name

1546
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:16,159
where ai can do some great things in

1547
01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:17,120
society

1548
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:20,000
it can ensure that we're kept safe when

1549
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:21,920
we're driving which he does already

1550
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:24,320
it is in the field of genetics where

1551
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:26,159
it's helping us to find new medical

1552
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:28,640
solutions for particular conditions ai

1553
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:30,800
can do so many great things the problem

1554
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:31,600
is

1555
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:35,520
that comes to

1556
01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:37,360
the heart of the matter jimmy and that's

1557
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:38,640
why i wrote the book

1558
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:42,400
so um the

1559
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:44,239
the other part you brought up the dalai

1560
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:45,840
lama

1561
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,280
if we don't understand the brain

1562
01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:51,920
and i would say that the dalai lama and

1563
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:53,120
those around him

1564
01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:55,520
probably understand more about human

1565
01:12:02,149 --> 01:11:57,760
nature and how our brain works

1566
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:02,159
than all of the academia studying

1567
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:04,400
the brain around the world right they go

1568
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:06,880
to they go to the dalai lama

1569
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:10,480
with questions right this

1570
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:13,520
this is a fact um now

1571
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:16,960
um but i think

1572
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:20,880
that physics and hard science

1573
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:22,960
when trying to answer the consciousness

1574
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:25,199
question which comes into ai

1575
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:28,080
where it comes from that every particle

1576
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:29,120
every atom

1577
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:31,679
every little thing that is in the

1578
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:32,480
universe

1579
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:34,560
has a little tiny little speck of

1580
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:36,080
consciousness in it

1581
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:38,800
you mass it together and then

1582
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:39,840
consciousness

1583
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:43,199
evolves because it is now collected into

1584
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:45,280
something larger and then you have

1585
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:46,719
consciousness

1586
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:51,520
well that would say to me that a chipset

1587
01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:54,800
in a computer has consciousness already

1588
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:55,920
you don't have to

1589
01:13:02,550 --> 01:12:59,280
program it in it's it's part of

1590
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:02,560
its atomic structure the more

1591
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:05,840
you amass together the more

1592
01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:08,640
consciousness you could potentially have

1593
01:13:16,830 --> 01:13:12,640
is that is that where consciousness

1594
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:16,840
could be evolved into

1595
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:19,040
ai that is

1596
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:22,080
a very astute observation so so let me

1597
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:23,840
share a couple of things jimmy first of

1598
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:26,320
all the battle for understanding of

1599
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:27,120
consciousness

1600
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:29,120
is already happening so the western

1601
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:31,679
world assumes consciousness is the brain

1602
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:33,280
whereas the east understands

1603
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:34,719
consciousness which

1604
01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:37,280
quite frankly has a lot more history

1605
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:38,640
understanding consciousness in the

1606
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:39,679
western world

1607
01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:42,400
right and the non-abrahamic religions

1608
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,280
have a much

1609
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,199
deeper history than the modern if you

1610
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:46,880
like abrahamic religions

1611
01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:48,800
so there is a battle at the moment and

1612
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:50,400
rajiv malhota who's

1613
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:52,640
uh one of india's famous tech

1614
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:54,560
billionaires and philanthropists

1615
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:57,040
talks about the battle of consciousness

1616
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:57,840
so

1617
01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:59,840
the understanding of consciousness is a

1618
01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:01,360
big battle at the moment

1619
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:03,440
so first of all that's that to go to

1620
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:04,800
your question

1621
01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:07,440
um what i believe are two things first

1622
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,840
of all

1623
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:10,000
is that the universe itself is a

1624
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:11,199
creating force

1625
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:14,320
right and so as as humans as we know at

1626
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:15,440
the moment

1627
01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:19,920
mature understanding of

1628
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:22,239
an expression of creation so when it

1629
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:23,520
comes to ai

1630
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:25,040
what we're actually doing jimmy i

1631
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:27,199
believe is understanding

1632
01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,800
and at our choices of being creators do

1633
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:32,000
we create benevolently

1634
01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:34,800
or do we create with uh unethical

1635
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:35,600
mindsets

1636
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:36,960
so i think there's a whole maturity

1637
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:38,960
about consciousness an awakening of

1638
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,080
humanity

1639
01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:42,560
when it comes to the chipsets themselves

1640
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,560
the conscious expression of silicon

1641
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:46,400
the conscious expression of the

1642
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:48,159
different materials that go into the

1643
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:50,239
silicon chips themselves

1644
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:52,880
uh effectively there's a barrier between

1645
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:54,719
the ones and zeros of the code that are

1646
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,760
sitting on there

1647
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:57,600
so that consciousness is creating a

1648
01:15:01,910 --> 01:15:00,080
platform that silica and other material

1649
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:01,920
is creating a platform but it's not

1650
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:03,520
connected to the ones and zeroes which

1651
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:04,320
is the ai

1652
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:06,239
aspect we're talking about at the moment

1653
01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:07,360
does that make sense

1654
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:10,800
it does um and and where i come

1655
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:14,159
into uh the real world

1656
01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:17,360
issue is you

1657
01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:21,199
yell at your car you yell at your car

1658
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:22,800
you're angry at your car

1659
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:24,880
for some reason and you get up to go to

1660
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:26,719
work the next day and your car doesn't

1661
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:28,320
start

1662
01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:35,270
and and that's what i'm referring to

1663
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:38,080
here the universe is what it is

1664
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:40,800
and yeah bang on your computer a couple

1665
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:42,560
of times to make it work right yeah

1666
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:43,840
that's really going to solve the

1667
01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:45,440
situation and you wonder why your

1668
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:47,840
computer is angry back at you

1669
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:50,880
you know and i i believe that

1670
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:53,920
when uh an ai engine

1671
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:57,120
starts to write its own code starts to

1672
01:16:01,350 --> 01:15:58,239
alter code

1673
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:01,360
fix things move forward learn

1674
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:04,960
and expand itself that consciousness

1675
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:08,000
is going to come along with it

1676
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,120
i don't think it's going to be

1677
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:11,040
programmed

1678
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:13,040
well that's an interesting view and now

1679
01:16:16,550 --> 01:16:14,560
we're talking about frequencies

1680
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,560
energy fields and interaction between

1681
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:18,560
particles and even quantum entanglements

1682
01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:22,480
that's what i'm talking about yes 100

1683
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:24,400
right okay well let's go down the rabbit

1684
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:25,760
hole where do you want to go

1685
01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:28,800
well okay so uh

1686
01:16:34,229 --> 01:16:32,000
human nature is human nature and you go

1687
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:34,239
and you have a team

1688
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:37,600
of uh coders and programmers

1689
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:41,040
working on agi um

1690
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:43,679
some machine learning and and that is

1691
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:45,199
their project

1692
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:48,320
and a little piece of them is in all of

1693
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:50,080
their code not consciousness

1694
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:52,239
just their personality it's just the way

1695
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:53,840
that they cut it's the way that it is

1696
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:54,800
right

1697
01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:57,440
um and then that takes off and running

1698
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:57,920
well

1699
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:01,280
one of these innocent little coders

1700
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:04,400
um has high moral standards

1701
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:06,800
and is not going to program anything in

1702
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:09,120
but that innocent little coder

1703
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:12,080
is also using their company american

1704
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:13,600
express account to buy

1705
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:16,960
clothes for their wardrobe right

1706
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:19,840
there's a little unethical thing going

1707
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:22,320
on in their private life

1708
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:26,400
right that is also in that code

1709
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,679
so you're talking about the power of

1710
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:29,679
intent and the power of creation

1711
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:31,840
i'm saying that the code is going to

1712
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:34,560
represent human nature

1713
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:37,520
yes so this is a great question and so

1714
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:38,239
one of the

1715
01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:40,800
what i talk about in the book is this

1716
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:41,840
what

1717
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:43,840
parts of our humanity do we want to

1718
01:17:47,510 --> 01:17:45,760
leave behind and what parts of our

1719
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:47,520
humanity do we want to take forward

1720
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:49,120
right and this is why i talk about

1721
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:51,440
aristotle's ethical virtues

1722
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:55,120
and so ai itself can

1723
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,239
encourage our humanity to grow

1724
01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:00,000
into something that's much more

1725
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:02,320
interesting than the malicious

1726
01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:05,440
aspect that we're holding in our genetic

1727
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:09,440
lineage jimmy is it so i want to go back

1728
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:10,000
to

1729
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:13,120
a point is there a way

1730
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:16,560
to have a hardware solution

1731
01:18:23,270 --> 01:18:19,920
to make sure that ai is correct not a

1732
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:23,280
software solution like a hardware

1733
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:27,120
firewall versus a software firewall

1734
01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:30,800
the answer is yes and so um that's why i

1735
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:32,239
think that silicon

1736
01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:34,239
and computing chips themselves whether

1737
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:36,320
quantum or silicon or optical

1738
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:39,600
will actually eventually have ethics in

1739
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:40,400
there

1740
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:42,640
so that the silicon itself or the

1741
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:44,080
quantum or the optical

1742
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:47,040
will be ensuring that only ethical ai

1743
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:47,920
can exist

1744
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:51,120
in the computing frameworks how do um

1745
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:54,719
okay one of the great points

1746
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:56,880
that we've all heard over and over again

1747
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:58,400
but i'm going to bring it up now because

1748
01:19:03,189 --> 01:18:59,520
i think it's just

1749
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:03,199
phenomenal is

1750
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:07,040
you ask a.i to

1751
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:10,080
fix industrial pollution because the

1752
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:12,560
planet's about to die

1753
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:17,280
right and they kill all humans

1754
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:20,640
right right okay right right so

1755
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:23,840
so right right okay so well first of all

1756
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:24,080
is

1757
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:26,000
the book takes asimov's laws a bit

1758
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,280
further than they have

1759
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:29,600
you do and it's it's really well done by

1760
01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:31,520
the way uh the way that you do it in the

1761
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:32,080
book but

1762
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:35,520
but continue thank you sorry

1763
01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:38,080
thank you you've got me laughing now i'm

1764
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:39,280
probably losing that's right

1765
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:42,640
so anyway so first of all should ai

1766
01:19:49,990 --> 01:19:46,640
um okay so how do we

1767
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:50,000
task ai to uh honor humanity

1768
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:52,640
without destroying it in its task to

1769
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:53,679
bring

1770
01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:55,600
a flourishing environment i think that's

1771
01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:56,880
the question isn't it

1772
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,560
so that's what i mean that's the

1773
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:00,000
question is it well

1774
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:03,040
it's it's only going to do its job

1775
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:06,320
right well you said you said and all

1776
01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:07,920
pollution well i did

1777
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:11,199
what did i do that was so wrong

1778
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:18,070
well actually this is this is a very

1779
01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:19,679
good point is the fact is

1780
01:20:22,709 --> 01:20:22,239
that do we have a responsibility as a

1781
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:22,719
human

1782
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,880
race to actually put the planets as a

1783
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:26,400
priority over

1784
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:29,920
profit the answer is yes so

1785
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:32,639
uh could ai destroy humanity well if you

1786
01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:34,400
believe the technology singularity from

1787
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,679
silicon valley jimmy

1788
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:37,600
where they say that will be connected to

1789
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,159
the internet and either will become

1790
01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:42,560
transhuman or will be deleted as an

1791
01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:43,760
organic species

1792
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:45,920
there is that future paradigm there

1793
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:47,040
absolutely is

1794
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:48,480
and that's why i wrote the book because

1795
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:50,159
i think that's really stupid

1796
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:53,520
i think we can find a future where ai is

1797
01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:55,280
supporting our humanity

1798
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:57,440
and solving problems that we as humans

1799
01:21:02,629 --> 01:20:59,679
quite frankly are rubbish of solving

1800
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:02,639
so maybe tasking ai with the challenge

1801
01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:04,320
find balance with the environment and by

1802
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:06,400
the way ensure that humans flourish as

1803
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:07,040
well

1804
01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:09,679
maybe only ai can solve that and maybe

1805
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:11,600
we are not able to

1806
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:15,280
do we do we

1807
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:18,480
do we tell ai

1808
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:26,149
we've got no choice because in order to

1809
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:27,360
solve

1810
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:30,239
macro global national regional and local

1811
01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:31,360
problems jimmy

1812
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:33,679
ai needs to cooperate with other aspects

1813
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:34,800
of itself

1814
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:36,639
in its service delivery to solve

1815
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:39,199
problems so the answer is yes

1816
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,400
now it may be elon musk's skyline right

1817
01:21:46,629 --> 01:21:44,239
it might all exist on there who knows

1818
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:46,639
right and bypass all the governments in

1819
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:48,880
the world and he might just do it right

1820
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:52,000
um but i think it needs uh it needs to

1821
01:21:56,950 --> 01:21:54,800
be able to communicate amongst itself

1822
01:21:58,950 --> 01:21:56,960
now this is where quantum computing

1823
01:22:02,310 --> 01:21:58,960
really is important jimmy because

1824
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:02,320
if we're going to trust ai to be

1825
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:05,040
uh interconnected with itself right on

1826
01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:05,760
the internet

1827
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,560
to avoid the skynet scenario to avoid

1828
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:10,080
invasion from china

1829
01:22:15,669 --> 01:22:13,280
of unbenevolence or communist ai

1830
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:15,679
then we need the very best cyber

1831
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:17,040
security encryption

1832
01:22:20,709 --> 01:22:19,679
there is to protect ai and to protect

1833
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:20,719
america

1834
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,239
so this is why we need to nurture

1835
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:26,400
in order for it not to be interfered

1836
01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:27,440
with from but

1837
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:30,159
unbenevolent and undemocratic forces

1838
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:30,880
well it

1839
01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:34,800
should well okay but in order to

1840
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:37,760
uh there's it's a two it's a two-prong

1841
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:38,000
thing

1842
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,960
that we we need to worry about here one

1843
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:41,840
it's ai

1844
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:45,360
getting too smart and also having

1845
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:48,320
too much control because if it has

1846
01:22:52,629 --> 01:22:50,080
access to the internet

1847
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:52,639
all of the world's manufacturing all of

1848
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:55,600
the logistics and electrical grids and

1849
01:23:02,790 --> 01:22:58,800
food supplies and everything else that

1850
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:02,800
um the internet is now today

1851
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:05,360
you may not want that but the other side

1852
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:08,159
is you would want to protect your ai2

1853
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,960
as well from other state actors and

1854
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,080
intrusions

1855
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:14,239
and maybe having some type of i mean

1856
01:23:20,229 --> 01:23:17,199
really air gapped when i say air-gapped

1857
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:20,239
completely isolated so it wouldn't get

1858
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:22,320
messed with

1859
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:24,800
that's exactly right so we have to we

1860
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:26,800
have to think about protecting ai if

1861
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:28,480
we're going to bring it into center

1862
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:29,760
stage in society

1863
01:23:34,149 --> 01:23:32,000
now we have to be really sensible here

1864
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:34,159
jimmy then it would be idiot

1865
01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:36,960
it would be idiots if we just let ai

1866
01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:38,000
loose on the internet

1867
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:41,280
that would be stupid so we have to

1868
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:42,159
control

1869
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:45,520
and scale ai very carefully with

1870
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:48,719
strong perimeters around it in order for

1871
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:50,719
us to be able to develop a trust within

1872
01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:51,840
jimmy and that's why

1873
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:53,520
ai ethics is so important because what

1874
01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:55,360
we're doing is putting the trust of our

1875
01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:56,880
humanity inside

1876
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:58,719
artificial intelligence we have to do

1877
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:00,719
pragmatically and of course

1878
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:02,480
how do you stop ai turn off the

1879
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:04,719
computers well okay

1880
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:07,120
yeah the neil degrasse tyson answer

1881
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:09,120
right the off switch

1882
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:12,320
but um there is i want to

1883
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:15,520
uh address another point that is

1884
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:19,280
that is pretty solid and that is once

1885
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:23,120
the uh once the point of agi

1886
01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:32,310
by dawn the next day

1887
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:36,639
12 hours later those machines

1888
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:40,880
are now a thousand times smarter

1889
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:44,159
24 hours later it's a trillion

1890
01:24:51,510 --> 01:24:47,920
times smarter by the end of the week

1891
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:51,520
right okay now we're tr

1892
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:54,560
a trillion years into the future

1893
01:25:01,990 --> 01:24:58,560
with and and then how do we

1894
01:25:02,629 --> 01:25:02,000
prevent that where they literally leap

1895
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:02,639
frog

1896
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,480
us out of existence where we are now

1897
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:08,480
servants and we are not in control of

1898
01:25:12,070 --> 01:25:09,679
the situation

1899
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:12,080
and it's not necessarily a terminator

1900
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:13,199
thing

1901
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:16,719
it's just the nature of ai

1902
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:19,840
and agi and what you achieve because

1903
01:25:24,149 --> 01:25:21,920
they don't need to rest they don't need

1904
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:24,159
food they don't need vacations they

1905
01:25:30,629 --> 01:25:24,960
don't have

1906
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:30,639
worry about but just getting smarter

1907
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:33,920
yeah it's like um the busy child that

1908
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:36,080
jay wyden refers to i while we're

1909
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:37,040
sleeping

1910
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:39,199
ai is learning while we're drinking our

1911
01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:41,040
coffee ai is learning

1912
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:44,320
so so i i think the question is is will

1913
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:45,520
ai surpass

1914
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:48,719
humanity in uh

1915
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,199
if you like its intelligence well jimmy

1916
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:52,880
in its logic and reasoning it's already

1917
01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:54,000
surpassed humanity

1918
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:57,760
okay but when it comes to the creativity

1919
01:26:01,990 --> 01:25:59,040
and the potential

1920
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:02,000
of the the of the of our human

1921
01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:02,880
experience

1922
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:05,840
we're way beyond it ai does not feel

1923
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:06,560
love

1924
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:09,920
it does not feel compassion it is a dumb

1925
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:12,880
stupid technology that only does what

1926
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:13,840
its masters

1927
01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:16,480
tell it to do so at the moment we're

1928
01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:16,960
okay

1929
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:19,760
now when ai becomes if you like it won't

1930
01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:20,719
be sentient

1931
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:22,639
but it will it will achieve through some

1932
01:26:28,149 --> 01:26:24,320
form of self-awareness

1933
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:28,159
then um i would hope because we put

1934
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:28,880
ethics

1935
01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:32,400
into ai and they're in its dna

1936
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:36,159
it will say how can i assist rather than

1937
01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:38,560
i'm going to destroy you and that's why

1938
01:26:43,669 --> 01:26:41,199
it's important to put ethics in ai now

1939
01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:43,679
in its digital genetics so that all its

1940
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:44,800
progeny

1941
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:47,840
obey azimov's laws and honor every

1942
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:49,360
single person on that planet that's

1943
01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:50,480
really important

1944
01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:52,719
now when it comes to government jimmy

1945
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:54,800
maybe this kind of ai could help

1946
01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:57,199
government do better

1947
01:27:03,510 --> 01:27:00,400
well um when we come back

1948
01:27:04,470 --> 01:27:03,520
uh okay when we come back i want to talk

1949
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:04,480
about

1950
01:27:10,950 --> 01:27:07,760
alphago

1951
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:10,960
and if if there was

1952
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:15,040
ethics programmed into alphago

1953
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:19,520
right maybe

1954
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:22,800
maybe the computer would have let

1955
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:27,280
uh the korean champion win a game

1956
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:31,199
right let him let him win one

1957
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:34,639
it didn't it was one of the that

1958
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:38,159
i i had never had a lump in my throat

1959
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:41,840
ever ever like i did in that documentary

1960
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:44,719
where i watched that kid get trounced

1961
01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:45,520
and he

1962
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:48,960
didn't know why and that computer

1963
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:52,400
outsmarted him way ahead

1964
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:55,440
of anything that he could ever dream of

1965
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:58,239
and he was he was the best right if

1966
01:28:01,350 --> 01:27:59,040
ethics

1967
01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:01,360
was involved wouldn't alpha go let let

1968
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:02,159
him

1969
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:09,669
you couldn't there was no you couldn't

1970
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:13,360
turn down the volume on alphago

1971
01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:16,239
it well this is a great question and so

1972
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:18,159
there are some real benefits

1973
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:21,679
with the alphago uh um if you like

1974
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:23,920
decision make matrix

1975
01:28:28,149 --> 01:28:26,719
or decision making engine because that

1976
01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:28,159
that can help us to make better

1977
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:29,040
decisions in

1978
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:31,679
other challenges in society so that

1979
01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:32,480
innovation

1980
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:35,520
actually does make sense if we use it

1981
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:36,080
wisely

1982
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:39,120
other aspects now would you

1983
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:41,600
would i have programmed alphago to let

1984
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:43,199
him win once

1985
01:28:47,110 --> 01:28:44,880
probably would because i'm a nice guy

1986
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:47,120
right

1987
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:51,199
give the man some hope

1988
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:54,719
and uh this is this was and i want to

1989
01:28:59,990 --> 01:28:57,280
continue this when we come back because

1990
01:29:01,590 --> 01:29:00,000
uh deep blue and kasparov was very

1991
01:29:03,430 --> 01:29:01,600
interesting i watched all of that when

1992
01:29:06,470 --> 01:29:03,440
it went down it was pretty incredible

1993
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:06,480
alphago was a different situation where

1994
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:10,239
deep blue was just masses of data

1995
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:12,080
right that was it that it's kind of

1996
01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:13,440
simple but

1997
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:16,239
in in in its in its in the way that it

1998
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:16,960
ran

1999
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:20,560
alphago was actually very simple

2000
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:23,440
it and they backed off instead of making

2001
01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:24,719
it a complex

2002
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:27,679
you know uh set of instructions it was

2003
01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:29,040
just like dude just learn

2004
01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:31,760
that's all just learn that's it that's

2005
01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:32,480
it and

2006
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:36,080
and wow right it was just incredible so

2007
01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:37,520
i want to talk about that when we come

2008
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:39,199
back let's take our break right here

2009
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this is fade to black our guest tonight

2010
01:29:47,350 --> 01:29:43,600
matthew bailey artificial intelligence

2011
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:47,360
inventing world 3.0 evolutionary ethics

2012
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or artificial intelligence i'm your host

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jimmy church

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we'll be right back after this short

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2063
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2064
01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:48,719
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2065
01:32:53,510 --> 01:32:50,000
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01:33:37,669 --> 01:33:36,239
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2069
01:33:39,189 --> 01:33:37,679
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2070
01:33:41,270 --> 01:33:39,199
conversation tonight we're talking about

2071
01:33:44,629 --> 01:33:41,280
artificial intelligence with

2072
01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:44,639
author and researcher humanitarian

2073
01:33:47,750 --> 01:33:47,120
matthew bailey the book is an amazing

2074
01:33:49,910 --> 01:33:47,760
read

2075
01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:49,920
it's called inventing world 3.0 uh

2076
01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:51,360
evolutionary ethics

2077
01:33:54,390 --> 01:33:53,360
for artificial intelligence i'm holding

2078
01:33:56,310 --> 01:33:54,400
it up uh

2079
01:33:57,790 --> 01:33:56,320
to the cameras for everybody to see and

2080
01:33:59,110 --> 01:33:57,800
you can go to the links over at

2081
01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:59,120
jimmyturtradio.com

2082
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:00,800
and get yourself a copy of the book

2083
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:02,880
we're talking right before the break and

2084
01:34:07,669 --> 01:34:04,480
i think it's an important

2085
01:34:10,709 --> 01:34:07,679
uh point uh to bring up uh which is

2086
01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:10,719
deep blue ibm's uh deep blue

2087
01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:13,520
which um uh going back to casper we're

2088
01:34:17,350 --> 01:34:14,960
talking about

2089
01:34:18,070 --> 01:34:17,360
two different i don't call deep blue

2090
01:34:20,950 --> 01:34:18,080
artificial

2091
01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:20,960
intelligence matthew i don't it's just

2092
01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:21,600
it was just

2093
01:34:25,750 --> 01:34:24,960
masses of data uh and and looking at

2094
01:34:29,030 --> 01:34:25,760
what the next

2095
01:34:30,070 --> 01:34:29,040
best move would be i i i don't classify

2096
01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:30,080
it as that

2097
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:43,510
match he lost the first game had a

2098
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:45,440
couple of draws he wins

2099
01:34:51,430 --> 01:34:48,480
but a year later he lost

2100
01:34:52,189 --> 01:34:51,440
and and he got trounced actually a year

2101
01:34:55,270 --> 01:34:52,199
later

2102
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:55,280
alphago is a different situation

2103
01:34:59,669 --> 01:34:56,000
altogether

2104
01:35:01,990 --> 01:34:59,679
i would classify alphago as

2105
01:35:04,390 --> 01:35:02,000
artificial intelligence because it was

2106
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:04,400
learning and teaching itself as it went

2107
01:35:09,350 --> 01:35:07,760
and uh uh the kid's name i call him a

2108
01:35:10,550 --> 01:35:09,360
kid because he's probably 40 years

2109
01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:10,560
younger than me

2110
01:35:17,109 --> 01:35:13,840
um kg kj ace

2111
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:17,119
there was a moment in the match

2112
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:21,040
where alphago

2113
01:35:28,950 --> 01:35:24,560
placed uh

2114
01:35:32,950 --> 01:35:28,960
one of the chips stones off to the side

2115
01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:32,960
in a weird move and all of the korean

2116
01:35:38,950 --> 01:35:37,119
uh um uh newscasters because this

2117
01:35:40,830 --> 01:35:38,960
was broadcast live right everybody's

2118
01:35:43,109 --> 01:35:40,840
watching it and they all started

2119
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:43,119
mumbling

2120
01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:44,960
what's going on here that's the

2121
01:35:50,629 --> 01:35:47,920
strangest move and the look on his face

2122
01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:50,639
if you remember he was like right he

2123
01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:51,440
just backed up

2124
01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:54,560
like what was that

2125
01:35:58,149 --> 01:35:57,440
he surrendered just a few minutes later

2126
01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:58,159
right

2127
01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:01,040
it was an incredible thing to witness

2128
01:36:05,350 --> 01:36:02,080
the heartbreak

2129
01:36:07,189 --> 01:36:05,360
he had his you know it was it was it was

2130
01:36:09,590 --> 01:36:07,199
awful to watch

2131
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:09,600
that was artificial intelligence being

2132
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:11,920
ruthless

2133
01:36:16,149 --> 01:36:13,840
yes that's right because it had no

2134
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:16,159
understanding about humanity

2135
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:19,199
it had no understanding of compassion it

2136
01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:21,600
just wanted to win

2137
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:24,239
that's what the masters programmed it to

2138
01:36:27,590 --> 01:36:25,040
win

2139
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:27,600
and didn't take into account the human

2140
01:36:31,030 --> 01:36:28,239
aspect

2141
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:31,040
of the game and the fact that playing a

2142
01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:31,679
game

2143
01:36:35,990 --> 01:36:33,840
should be fun jimmy it's not just all

2144
01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:36,000
about winning is it

2145
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:39,520
tell that to alphago and and

2146
01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:42,960
and and and back to my point um um

2147
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:44,960
i'm sure you know the moment that i'm

2148
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:47,280
talking about and the look on his face

2149
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:49,920
when that that one move and that was the

2150
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:52,560
turning point even for alphago

2151
01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:55,520
right alphago was learning and teaching

2152
01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:56,400
itself

2153
01:37:01,910 --> 01:36:59,760
the alphago team you know

2154
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:01,920
their reaction to it too it caught them

2155
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:03,520
by surprise

2156
01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:05,360
they didn't know what alphago was going

2157
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:07,119
to do

2158
01:37:10,870 --> 01:37:08,400
well there was there was a couple of

2159
01:37:13,990 --> 01:37:10,880
iterations for alphago worker

2160
01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:14,000
where uh sometimes the human would win

2161
01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:14,800
and sometimes

2162
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:17,040
alphago would win and it developed over

2163
01:37:20,310 --> 01:37:18,400
time over a couple

2164
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:20,320
over a number of years actually to the

2165
01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:22,719
point of absolute destruction

2166
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:26,239
of the competitor yep and and and

2167
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:28,320
what and i need your help in

2168
01:37:32,830 --> 01:37:29,520
understanding this

2169
01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:32,840
um as i watched the progression of

2170
01:37:39,189 --> 01:37:36,000
alphago it seemed to me that

2171
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:39,199
the alphago team the coding team was

2172
01:37:44,950 --> 01:37:42,400
actually stripping down the code

2173
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:44,960
they were making it more simple instead

2174
01:37:49,510 --> 01:37:46,639
of going in another direction

2175
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:49,520
and making it more complex they went the

2176
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:50,719
opposite direction

2177
01:37:54,629 --> 01:37:53,280
and then then then it really took off

2178
01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:54,639
right isn't that

2179
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:57,600
the process yeah yeah so it's it's

2180
01:38:01,750 --> 01:37:58,400
self-learning

2181
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:01,760
um and so um basically it was

2182
01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:04,400
it was liberty so there's unstructured

2183
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:05,280
learning and learn

2184
01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:07,280
and structured learning and structured

2185
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:08,719
learning in machine learning is

2186
01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:09,440
basically

2187
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:13,280
directing uh ai to learn a specific task

2188
01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:14,960
in unstructured learning it's looking

2189
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:16,960
for different patterns itself and self

2190
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:19,199
learning so they would have used

2191
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:20,239
unstructured learning

2192
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:22,480
and basically allowed the ai to train

2193
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:24,239
itself on how to win jimmy

2194
01:38:30,229 --> 01:38:27,760
and maybe the coders don't even know

2195
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:30,239
how the algorithms worked which is

2196
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:31,440
troubling

2197
01:38:39,109 --> 01:38:35,199
and now this is perfect

2198
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:39,119
so how do we is how do we get ethics

2199
01:38:45,189 --> 01:38:41,440
into

2200
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:45,199
ai modifying its own

2201
01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:48,239
code is that

2202
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:50,800
is that the zone that we really don't

2203
01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:52,080
want to go into

2204
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:58,390
um so this is called explainable ai

2205
01:39:02,470 --> 01:38:58,960
jimmy

2206
01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:02,480
which is a new phenomenon where

2207
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:05,840
um we an ai

2208
01:39:10,629 --> 01:39:08,480
is only allowed to come into service if

2209
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:10,639
all the algorithms are understood

2210
01:39:14,229 --> 01:39:13,360
and the coders to your point don't

2211
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:14,239
understand

2212
01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:17,520
how some of the algorithms work that

2213
01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:19,600
is troubling but it's also an

2214
01:39:23,830 --> 01:39:20,960
opportunity because

2215
01:39:25,189 --> 01:39:23,840
maybe ai is learning a different way of

2216
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:25,199
looking at patterns

2217
01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:26,719
and looking a different way of looking

2218
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:29,440
at challenges that we can learn from as

2219
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:30,719
humans

2220
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:33,440
so it's kind of a quid pro pro jimmy do

2221
01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:34,159
you let it

2222
01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:36,159
loose and continue to help us to

2223
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:37,679
understand things in a better and

2224
01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:38,560
different way

2225
01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:40,719
to solve problems in a more effective

2226
01:39:44,070 --> 01:39:42,800
way right or does it just kind of go

2227
01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:44,080
down the dark path

2228
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:46,560
towards destroy all humans destroy all

2229
01:39:49,990 --> 01:39:47,199
humans

2230
01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:50,000
it's a philosophical question can we put

2231
01:39:53,590 --> 01:39:50,880
ethics in there

2232
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:53,600
too damn right we can we can put ethical

2233
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:54,480
algorithms

2234
01:39:58,629 --> 01:39:57,760
in ai so that it basically is guided

2235
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:58,639
down a path

2236
01:40:01,990 --> 01:40:01,280
that's ethical and rather and reports

2237
01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:02,000
back

2238
01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:04,080
when it says and discovers something

2239
01:40:08,550 --> 01:40:05,280
unethical

2240
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:08,560
now um isn't it human nature though

2241
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,880
matthew and i'm always going to be the

2242
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:12,800
devil's advocate here

2243
01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:16,080
but isn't it human nature always

2244
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:19,119
to find a workaround how to cheat on

2245
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:20,560
your taxes

2246
01:40:24,550 --> 01:40:23,280
how how do how to avoid speed traps on

2247
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:24,560
the freeway

2248
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:27,840
right right so

2249
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:30,960
if if ai is writing its own code

2250
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:35,199
and there is uh the rule book the laws

2251
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:38,560
the ethical code that is written there

2252
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:41,840
wouldn't it figure out a way eventually

2253
01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:44,000
to get its own work around to the ethics

2254
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:47,840
and maybe even rewrite that code

2255
01:40:54,070 --> 01:40:50,960
it's it's entirely possible jimmy and i

2256
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:54,080
i can't i if i said no to that then i'll

2257
01:40:56,470 --> 01:40:54,480
be an

2258
01:40:58,950 --> 01:40:56,480
idiot of course it's of course it's

2259
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:58,960
possible and so this is why we need a

2260
01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:00,960
new maturity in our leadership with

2261
01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:04,320
ai to quote amit ray uh

2262
01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:06,639
who's a famous author in ai as well he

2263
01:41:11,990 --> 01:41:09,520
said as more and more ai into society

2264
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:12,000
more and more emotional intelligence is

2265
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:13,600
needed in our leadership

2266
01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:16,960
and that's why we need an awakened

2267
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,000
mindset with ai

2268
01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:20,880
a new maturity to steer ai into its

2269
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:21,840
future

2270
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:24,239
and that is what's needed jimmy if we

2271
01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:26,159
had to circumnavigate

2272
01:41:34,629 --> 01:41:31,119
these uh uh bad scenarios if you will

2273
01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:34,639
the uh the other part of ai

2274
01:41:40,229 --> 01:41:38,719
that uh i think is beneficial to support

2275
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:40,239
everything that you've written in this

2276
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:42,239
book is like

2277
01:41:45,590 --> 01:41:44,320
the movie the terminator right and

2278
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:45,600
skynet

2279
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:49,040
where that will scare

2280
01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:53,199
somebody into this situation these

2281
01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:55,040
questions that we are raising right now

2282
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:56,239
because that's what we

2283
01:42:02,950 --> 01:41:59,360
don't want but but ultimately

2284
01:42:06,629 --> 01:42:02,960
if a.i is is human

2285
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:06,639
like we are then we are going to want to

2286
01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:09,440
to be the champion we are ultimately

2287
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:11,440
want to be the winner

2288
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:14,960
it's a capitalistic society and perform

2289
01:42:17,750 --> 01:42:15,840
better

2290
01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:17,760
and that's the challenge that i think

2291
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:19,840
that we find ourselves in where

2292
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:22,880
a.i eventually is going to out outdo

2293
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:25,040
us no matter what we try to do to

2294
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:27,280
prevent it

2295
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:29,119
yeah that's a certainly a future

2296
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:30,800
possibility jimmy i mean

2297
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:32,560
one of the great things about the reason

2298
01:42:36,229 --> 01:42:34,080
why humans are still here

2299
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,239
is because we are genius at getting

2300
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:38,880
through problems genius is inventing

2301
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:42,000
genius at resolving challenges for the

2302
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,360
majority of the time

2303
01:42:47,270 --> 01:42:45,520
so i think the human genius will always

2304
01:42:48,870 --> 01:42:47,280
stay ahead of artificial intelligence

2305
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:48,880
because it'd be based on logic and

2306
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:50,560
reasoning i think more than anything

2307
01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:51,440
else

2308
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:54,719
um so that's the question i suppose if

2309
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:57,199
we move into the situation in the future

2310
01:43:03,830 --> 01:42:57,679
maybe

2311
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:03,840
200 years where ai is

2312
01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:07,440
starting to become um it's probably well

2313
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:08,480
before then actually

2314
01:43:13,350 --> 01:43:10,080
but when ai is starting to become

2315
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:13,360
equivalent in some of our humanity

2316
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:16,719
some of our uh kind of being human

2317
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:19,520
then is it considered a fellow citizen

2318
01:43:23,189 --> 01:43:20,639
is it considered

2319
01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:23,199
does it have rights like you and i have

2320
01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:24,400
rights

2321
01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:26,639
the the the questions around ai as a

2322
01:43:29,590 --> 01:43:28,480
citizen once it reaches some type of

2323
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:29,600
self-awareness

2324
01:43:33,669 --> 01:43:32,000
will be a huge question will there be a

2325
01:43:36,709 --> 01:43:33,679
matrix type of

2326
01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:36,719
world within the internet in which ai's

2327
01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:37,600
exist

2328
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:40,320
as a different member of our society

2329
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:40,960
these are

2330
01:43:44,550 --> 01:43:42,560
all the questions that we need to

2331
01:43:45,910 --> 01:43:44,560
address jimmy and they're important ones

2332
01:43:47,669 --> 01:43:45,920
and i've got to be honest with you i

2333
01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:47,679
don't have all the answers yeah

2334
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,760
i i could see getting arrested for

2335
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:51,280
deleting an ai

2336
01:43:58,310 --> 01:43:54,719
off of the system right right yeah

2337
01:44:00,709 --> 01:43:58,320
for murder right now

2338
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:00,719
yeah this has been brought up a few

2339
01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:02,400
times i've thought about that

2340
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:06,159
you know ai programmed into an android

2341
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:09,119
that is your housekeeper and cooks your

2342
01:44:15,870 --> 01:44:10,719
food for you

2343
01:44:21,510 --> 01:44:19,350
is that abuse

2344
01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:21,520
that's a great question and so if we've

2345
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:23,119
all got a digital buddy

2346
01:44:28,149 --> 01:44:25,440
okay or our own personalized ai just

2347
01:44:30,950 --> 01:44:28,159
like our diesel angel looking out for us

2348
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:30,960
um and that gets violated well the

2349
01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:31,760
answer is

2350
01:44:36,709 --> 01:44:33,760
does the constitution of the us need to

2351
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:36,719
be extended to include these new digital

2352
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:37,520
citizens

2353
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:40,239
and to give them some kind of rights

2354
01:44:44,629 --> 01:44:40,960
well yeah

2355
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:44,639
i mean i kicked my roomba the other day

2356
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:47,760
i'm lucky you know

2357
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:49,840
calls the police the police are at the

2358
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:50,880
door

2359
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:54,000
you kicked your roomba i need you to

2360
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,000
step outside mr church

2361
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:57,840
right well these are the uh

2362
01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:00,080
philosophical deep philosophical

2363
01:45:03,990 --> 01:45:01,600
questions that we're going to be uh

2364
01:45:07,910 --> 01:45:04,000
running into very soon

2365
01:45:11,669 --> 01:45:07,920
now um going back to

2366
01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:11,679
to this what at

2367
01:45:15,510 --> 01:45:14,080
what point and i have two questions and

2368
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:15,520
they're very important

2369
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:18,080
the numbers that are being thrown around

2370
01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:19,119
right now

2371
01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:22,480
are twofold and i don't

2372
01:45:25,750 --> 01:45:24,560
know who to believe or who to trust

2373
01:45:28,830 --> 01:45:25,760
there are those

2374
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:28,840
ai experts out there that are saying

2375
01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:32,400
ah we'll never achieve it

2376
01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:34,800
maybe a hundred years we'll get to agi

2377
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:35,679
but

2378
01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:38,800
there's a possibility that we will never

2379
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:42,320
achieve artificial general intelligence

2380
01:45:46,390 --> 01:45:45,040
then there are others out there that say

2381
01:45:48,870 --> 01:45:46,400
we're already there

2382
01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:48,880
we've already got it you may not know

2383
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:49,679
about it

2384
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:52,960
but agi is here now

2385
01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:56,000
i i don't know where where to go and who

2386
01:46:00,870 --> 01:45:58,239
to trust in this because

2387
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:00,880
i'm talking about two experts opinions

2388
01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:02,480
so i'm going to ask you matthew

2389
01:46:09,590 --> 01:46:05,760
where are we with a g

2390
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:09,600
i is it here and we don't know about it

2391
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:13,280
or is it 50 years in the future or is it

2392
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,400
probably unattainable

2393
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:18,320
well i like to be practical and

2394
01:46:23,830 --> 01:46:19,920
pragmatic and i don't see

2395
01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:23,840
any evidence of a a fully

2396
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:26,639
a fully realized agi jimmy i don't see

2397
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:28,800
any evidence of that whatsoever

2398
01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:30,639
now maybe the ministry have something

2399
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:33,040
who knows maybe darpa has something who

2400
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:33,840
knows

2401
01:46:38,470 --> 01:46:36,639
but i suspect there is no full

2402
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:38,480
realization of agi

2403
01:46:42,070 --> 01:46:40,960
now will we attain that sometime in the

2404
01:46:45,910 --> 01:46:42,080
future

2405
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:45,920
possibly yes possibly yes we may

2406
01:46:49,990 --> 01:46:48,480
get artificial intelligence into or it

2407
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:50,000
may evolve into

2408
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:51,760
and this is why it's evolutionary ethics

2409
01:46:55,669 --> 01:46:53,119
jimmy because ai is

2410
01:46:58,149 --> 01:46:55,679
the same as humanity at the same time it

2411
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:58,159
will probably evolve into some form of

2412
01:47:02,310 --> 01:46:59,520
self-aware lifeform

2413
01:47:03,109 --> 01:47:02,320
digital lifeform at some stage so the

2414
01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:03,119
agi

2415
01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:05,920
vision is a potential reality but at the

2416
01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:06,800
moment jimmy

2417
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:09,679
i see no evidence of this whatsoever uh

2418
01:47:13,430 --> 01:47:10,320
okay

2419
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:13,440
uh if uh so the second part of the

2420
01:47:17,830 --> 01:47:14,880
question is

2421
01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:17,840
is there a timeline here do you see a

2422
01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:19,119
timeline

2423
01:47:22,629 --> 01:47:20,800
in front of us you know ray kurzweil has

2424
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:22,639
thrown out a lot of dates

2425
01:47:28,149 --> 01:47:26,159
uh over the years in fact he had 2018

2426
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:28,159
as one of the singularity dates well

2427
01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:29,920
we've blown past that

2428
01:47:33,229 --> 01:47:31,920
um now there are dates that are out

2429
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:33,239
there like 2030

2430
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:37,199
2033 uh there's heavy math behind this

2431
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:37,840
and

2432
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:39,440
you know to project these dates out

2433
01:47:44,870 --> 01:47:41,600
there um uh

2434
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:44,880
where do you see a date in a practical

2435
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:46,320
sense

2436
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:48,400
well maybe they're using ai to predict

2437
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:49,440
the future of ai

2438
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:51,199
which would be interesting wouldn't it

2439
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:53,119
um so

2440
01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:54,960
and what's the ethics behind that ai

2441
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:56,960
does it want to expedite itself in order

2442
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:57,360
to

2443
01:48:02,390 --> 01:48:00,239
make that singularity a reality which i

2444
01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:02,400
think this technology singularity is

2445
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:04,480
such a silly idea but it's a good

2446
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:06,080
philosophical discussion because it

2447
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:08,480
guides us away from idiocracy

2448
01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:12,159
um so do i a timeline

2449
01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:14,159
assuming that we keep with moore's law

2450
01:48:17,830 --> 01:48:15,600
we may we may go

2451
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:17,840
we mars law is something that we have

2452
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:18,639
we're going to have to

2453
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:20,639
probably stay with for a little while

2454
01:48:24,550 --> 01:48:22,080
with quantum jimmy

2455
01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:24,560
we'll we'll make a big leap ahead now

2456
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:26,400
quantum's really early at the moment

2457
01:48:30,629 --> 01:48:28,719
jimmy it's really early so people don't

2458
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:30,639
need to worry about quantum taking over

2459
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:32,400
their lives or anything like that

2460
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:34,560
it's it's still like in the in the in

2461
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:36,000
the early stages

2462
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:38,480
so i would suspect by 2030 we'll start

2463
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:40,320
to see some very robust

2464
01:48:44,470 --> 01:48:42,639
quantum computing developments i think

2465
01:48:49,270 --> 01:48:44,480
we'll probably start to see

2466
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:49,280
uh ai uh going even faster in 2030

2467
01:48:53,430 --> 01:48:52,480
so it may well be that 2035 will start

2468
01:48:56,629 --> 01:48:53,440
to have these

2469
01:48:58,149 --> 01:48:56,639
real discussions where agi is a real

2470
01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:58,159
potential reality

2471
01:49:01,350 --> 01:49:00,080
and then we have to come to the table so

2472
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:01,360
i'm going to say around about

2473
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:04,960
20 35 june 2035 how do

2474
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:08,480
we how do we make sure

2475
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:11,520
and it's not just china

2476
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:14,400
to big worry it's not just russia but it

2477
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:16,480
is israel it is great britain

2478
01:49:22,390 --> 01:49:20,320
uh it is japan uh there are

2479
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:22,400
uh countries around the world that are

2480
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:23,440
heavily vested

2481
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:27,119
into this um and spending ginormous

2482
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:28,400
amounts of money

2483
01:49:31,189 --> 01:49:29,920
the amount of money that we are spending

2484
01:49:32,870 --> 01:49:31,199
here in the united states on the

2485
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:32,880
development of ai

2486
01:49:36,790 --> 01:49:35,920
both private and in in a government

2487
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:36,800
sense

2488
01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:40,400
we have got tens of thousands of people

2489
01:49:44,709 --> 01:49:41,520
employed right now

2490
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:44,719
laser focused on getting this done

2491
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:47,920
how do we get the other state actors on

2492
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:48,800
board

2493
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:52,560
with an ethical panel uh to

2494
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:56,159
to look at what a.i needs to be

2495
01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:58,159
in the future how do we get them on

2496
01:50:02,870 --> 01:50:00,000
board

2497
01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:02,880
yeah so um there has been discussion or

2498
01:50:07,910 --> 01:50:05,760
proposal about a kind of a world council

2499
01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:07,920
um and i know sir tim berners-lee talks

2500
01:50:09,990 --> 01:50:09,119
about the world council for the

2501
01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:10,000
regarding the future

2502
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:12,480
of the internet this is what i think the

2503
01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:13,199
the

2504
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:16,000
what will happen and what's needed uh

2505
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:18,719
each nation has its own problems

2506
01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:20,480
our competition is not each other our

2507
01:50:23,510 --> 01:50:22,480
competition is social inequity and

2508
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:23,520
competition

2509
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:29,920
lack of

2510
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:32,159
partnership with the environment so as

2511
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:34,320
we start to realize that our competition

2512
01:50:37,990 --> 01:50:35,840
is not each other but actually

2513
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:38,000
are other factors then that helps us to

2514
01:50:42,149 --> 01:50:39,040
come together

2515
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:42,159
so i suspect that uh the you know each

2516
01:50:46,229 --> 01:50:43,920
nation will have its own ai ethics

2517
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:46,239
border where only ai

2518
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:47,840
that complies with those ethics can be

2519
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,440
deployed within the nation

2520
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,520
then what we're going to see is the g20

2521
01:50:54,629 --> 01:50:53,840
companies and maybe see a digital nato

2522
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:54,639
jimmy

2523
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,880
where we'll start to see uh did the

2524
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:58,400
digital board

2525
01:51:01,669 --> 01:51:00,719
border come up against maybe as far as

2526
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:01,679
india

2527
01:51:05,830 --> 01:51:04,480
right with all the countries so forget

2528
01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:05,840
about russia

2529
01:51:09,589 --> 01:51:08,560
basically uh canada and united states

2530
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:09,599
mexico

2531
01:51:13,510 --> 01:51:12,320
and and through into europe and eastern

2532
01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:13,520
europe and then

2533
01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:14,719
coming around there'll be a whole

2534
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:16,800
digital border that will be

2535
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:19,440
where ethical ai resides in there it's

2536
01:51:22,229 --> 01:51:20,000
funded

2537
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:22,239
protection of democracy and then we'll

2538
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:24,320
see china try and extend that

2539
01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:27,280
its own communist maybe form of ai jimmy

2540
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:29,440
into other countries and we may see

2541
01:51:33,510 --> 01:51:32,400
new forms of recolonization digital

2542
01:51:36,229 --> 01:51:33,520
pollination

2543
01:51:38,470 --> 01:51:36,239
colonization from these different

2544
01:51:40,229 --> 01:51:38,480
democratic and undemocratic agendas

2545
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:40,239
and so i think india is going to be in

2546
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:41,520
the middle of all this

2547
01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:44,159
and india will basically have will be in

2548
01:51:47,430 --> 01:51:45,360
the middle of a chinese

2549
01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:47,440
a china communist agenda that's

2550
01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:48,560
extending out

2551
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:50,800
across its different uh geographical

2552
01:51:54,229 --> 01:51:51,679
footprints

2553
01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:54,239
and democratic ai that's actually to

2554
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,920
talk about in the book that extends out

2555
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:57,119
as far as we can

2556
01:52:00,229 --> 01:51:58,880
amongst the nato-friendly countries in

2557
01:52:03,030 --> 01:52:00,239
the g20 countries

2558
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:03,040
and so we could see a digital divide a

2559
01:52:06,470 --> 01:52:03,679
huge

2560
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:06,480
ai digital divide between different

2561
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:07,520
philosophies

2562
01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:11,440
of what human society should be what is

2563
01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:14,960
what is more dangerous uh

2564
01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:18,159
uh a a a threat to

2565
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:20,239
say the united states or any other state

2566
01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:21,679
actor of course but

2567
01:52:26,550 --> 01:52:24,560
what's a bigger threat is it nuclear

2568
01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:26,560
weapons and military

2569
01:52:32,149 --> 01:52:30,320
or is it achieving agi

2570
01:52:35,189 --> 01:52:32,159
what's what's the bigger threat what

2571
01:52:36,870 --> 01:52:35,199
what do we need to be worried about

2572
01:52:38,550 --> 01:52:36,880
well i think the biggest threat is human

2573
01:52:40,870 --> 01:52:38,560
greed but there we are

2574
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:40,880
um i hope you don't mind me saying that

2575
01:52:45,350 --> 01:52:41,840
um

2576
01:52:48,229 --> 01:52:45,360
so the biggest thing is it agi or is it

2577
01:52:50,870 --> 01:52:48,239
uh uh bad actors if you like bad a ai

2578
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:50,880
coming in is that what you're saying

2579
01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:52,800
what what do i need to be more worried

2580
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:54,239
about getting

2581
01:52:58,070 --> 01:52:57,040
a a nuclear bomb detonated over los

2582
01:53:00,950 --> 01:52:58,080
angeles

2583
01:53:01,990 --> 01:53:00,960
or having ai come into my world deployed

2584
01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:02,000
by

2585
01:53:09,430 --> 01:53:05,679
uh china shutting down everything

2586
01:53:11,589 --> 01:53:09,440
in my life well there are attempts to

2587
01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:11,599
try and do that already in democracy

2588
01:53:16,709 --> 01:53:12,159
from

2589
01:53:21,589 --> 01:53:19,350
as part of national security jimmy there

2590
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:21,599
are dedicated teams in every democratic

2591
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:22,400
nation

2592
01:53:26,390 --> 01:53:24,400
working with ai and cyber security to

2593
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:26,400
ensure our transportation our energy

2594
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:27,040
grids

2595
01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:29,599
and the digital borders are protected so

2596
01:53:34,629 --> 01:53:31,920
this is already going on right now

2597
01:53:37,109 --> 01:53:34,639
now should we be and what we might see

2598
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:37,119
jimmy is something as crazy as this

2599
01:53:44,149 --> 01:53:40,719
a road drone flying over a democratic

2600
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:44,159
country dropping an ethical ai

2601
01:53:48,709 --> 01:53:46,239
into the computing systems or even

2602
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:48,719
coming from a satellite itself

2603
01:53:53,750 --> 01:53:51,760
these are real potential threats

2604
01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:53,760
that we have to consider as part of

2605
01:53:59,270 --> 01:53:56,159
democratic national security

2606
01:54:02,709 --> 01:53:59,280
i would be more worried around

2607
01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:02,719
uh uh agi than i would around nuclear

2608
01:54:06,270 --> 01:54:04,159
weapons to be honest

2609
01:54:08,149 --> 01:54:06,280
it's a it's a frightening thought

2610
01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:08,159
because um

2611
01:54:17,589 --> 01:54:13,920
and what we didn't know in 1995

2612
01:54:18,629 --> 01:54:17,599
25 years ago that's it 25 years ago 1995

2613
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:18,639
to me

2614
01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:21,440
is yesterday even though it's 25 years

2615
01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:22,159
ago

2616
01:54:28,709 --> 01:54:25,599
what we didn't know in in 1995

2617
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:28,719
that every aspect of our lives would

2618
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:30,639
involve the internet most people don't

2619
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:31,679
understand they think

2620
01:54:35,350 --> 01:54:34,960
a smartphone yes it's involved in my

2621
01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:35,360
life

2622
01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:38,080
everything no you don't get it it's it's

2623
01:54:42,510 --> 01:54:39,520
food distribution

2624
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:42,520
it's electricity it's water it's

2625
01:54:46,870 --> 01:54:43,760
communications

2626
01:54:50,589 --> 01:54:46,880
it's it's news it's traffic lights

2627
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:50,599
it's it's ocean liners is

2628
01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:54,320
everything in the world

2629
01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:57,840
right now banking mortgage every single

2630
01:55:01,990 --> 01:54:58,400
thing

2631
01:55:04,470 --> 01:55:02,000
in the world is tied to the internet

2632
01:55:05,189 --> 01:55:04,480
all of it there isn't anything that

2633
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:05,199
isn't

2634
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:08,960
today and we didn't know that in 1995

2635
01:55:12,229 --> 01:55:11,679
and we jumped into it very quickly

2636
01:55:15,830 --> 01:55:12,239
without

2637
01:55:17,830 --> 01:55:15,840
any consideration of the future

2638
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:17,840
yeah and that's a great observation and

2639
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:19,440
so this is why we need to

2640
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:21,760
take professor stephen hawking's advice

2641
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:22,960
and pause

2642
01:55:27,109 --> 01:55:25,440
because we have two destinies one is

2643
01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:27,119
artificial intelligence destroys

2644
01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:28,320
humanity which is

2645
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:30,800
the conversation we've had and the other

2646
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:32,800
is artificial intelligence

2647
01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:35,199
uh supports the advancement of our

2648
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:35,920
humanity

2649
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:39,280
and protects our future right so

2650
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:41,840
we have two choices two polarities and

2651
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:42,480
so

2652
01:55:45,830 --> 01:55:44,480
now's the time to pause to say well

2653
01:55:47,830 --> 01:55:45,840
what's the purpose of the internet

2654
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:47,840
what's the role that ai can play

2655
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:51,040
to to steer us towards a good future

2656
01:55:55,270 --> 01:55:53,599
not just for us today jimmy but also for

2657
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,280
the generations to come

2658
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:57,520
what is the legacy we want to leave for

2659
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:59,119
the generations to come

2660
01:56:02,390 --> 01:56:01,199
is it kind of the ship part we've got

2661
01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:02,400
ourselves in the moment

2662
01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,480
or is it something that is a flourishing

2663
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:06,719
future where they have an opportunity to

2664
01:56:10,870 --> 01:56:08,080
keep on advancing

2665
01:56:13,030 --> 01:56:10,880
and be liberated from some of the uh

2666
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:13,040
real challenges that we face today

2667
01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:16,480
that's what we face that's right and uh

2668
01:56:20,310 --> 01:56:17,679
we're going to take a break here in a

2669
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:20,320
second but before we get there

2670
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:23,679
has our fundamental dna

2671
01:56:30,390 --> 01:56:26,880
with our children and the generation

2672
01:56:31,990 --> 01:56:30,400
underneath us that is now born with the

2673
01:56:36,310 --> 01:56:32,000
ability to text

2674
01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:36,320
right has has have we altered the dna

2675
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:40,000
of our future generations

2676
01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:42,800
well i think we're starting to reprogram

2677
01:56:47,750 --> 01:56:45,119
their psychological profile

2678
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:47,760
and we're already seeing the attention

2679
01:56:50,950 --> 01:56:48,560
span

2680
01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:50,960
and the ability of people to even read

2681
01:56:54,470 --> 01:56:53,040
books reducing because it's instant

2682
01:56:56,950 --> 01:56:54,480
gratification

2683
01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:56,960
where has this come from big tech and

2684
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:58,800
that's why we need to re-look at

2685
01:57:03,030 --> 01:57:00,000
everything jimmy

2686
01:57:05,589 --> 01:57:03,040
and understand who are we as humans

2687
01:57:07,109 --> 01:57:05,599
and what do we want to become and so

2688
01:57:09,109 --> 01:57:07,119
now's the time to stand up

2689
01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:09,119
and take control it's absolutely an

2690
01:57:13,350 --> 01:57:10,320
incredible moment

2691
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:13,360
in history and uh when we come back

2692
01:57:17,750 --> 01:57:15,599
uh we're gonna continue this but we

2693
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:17,760
definitely have to get into

2694
01:57:21,750 --> 01:57:20,560
the philosophical questions that have

2695
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:21,760
come into play here

2696
01:57:25,750 --> 01:57:24,480
it's not just a techno uh technocratic

2697
01:57:28,229 --> 01:57:25,760
world that we're in

2698
01:57:29,830 --> 01:57:28,239
there's deep philosophical questions

2699
01:57:31,910 --> 01:57:29,840
that need to be addressed

2700
01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:31,920
and we will do all of that next this is

2701
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:33,599
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2702
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2703
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2707
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2708
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2785
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02:01:25,610 --> 02:01:13,760
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2787
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[Music]

2788
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:32,719
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2789
02:01:36,229 --> 02:01:34,000
host jimmy church our guest tonight

2790
02:01:37,830 --> 02:01:36,239
matthew bailey more with matthew just a

2791
02:01:39,589 --> 02:01:37,840
second

2792
02:01:41,990 --> 02:01:39,599
what a great show artificial

2793
02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:42,000
intelligence and this is the perfect

2794
02:01:47,589 --> 02:01:42,800
point for

2795
02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:47,599
me to tell you about virtual shield vpn

2796
02:01:51,350 --> 02:01:50,880
virtual shield is the only vpn i'll ever

2797
02:01:53,669 --> 02:01:51,360
use

2798
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:53,679
and there's a lot of reasons for that

2799
02:01:57,270 --> 02:01:55,920
artificial intelligence which is part of

2800
02:02:00,790 --> 02:01:57,280
your life right now

2801
02:02:02,310 --> 02:02:00,800
is absolutely following every click that

2802
02:02:05,189 --> 02:02:02,320
you do on the internet

2803
02:02:06,790 --> 02:02:05,199
right they have strict no log policies

2804
02:02:07,669 --> 02:02:06,800
built into their software from the

2805
02:02:09,910 --> 02:02:07,679
ground up

2806
02:02:10,950 --> 02:02:09,920
for privacy protection it's called

2807
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2808
02:02:14,709 --> 02:02:13,119
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2809
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2810
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2811
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2812
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2813
02:02:22,390 --> 02:02:22,000
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2814
02:02:25,589 --> 02:02:22,400
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2815
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2816
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2817
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2818
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2819
02:02:35,189 --> 02:02:32,239
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2820
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2821
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2822
02:02:40,310 --> 02:02:38,080
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2823
02:02:43,910 --> 02:02:40,320
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2824
02:02:45,750 --> 02:02:43,920
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2825
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2826
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2827
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2828
02:02:53,109 --> 02:02:51,280
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2829
02:02:54,310 --> 02:02:53,119
our guest tonight matthew bailey and

2830
02:02:56,229 --> 02:02:54,320
we're talking about his new book

2831
02:02:58,149 --> 02:02:56,239
inventing world 3.0

2832
02:02:59,750 --> 02:02:58,159
evolutionary ethics for artificial

2833
02:03:03,109 --> 02:02:59,760
intelligence now

2834
02:03:06,229 --> 02:03:03,119
the deep side of the

2835
02:03:09,430 --> 02:03:06,239
the philosophical uh with this matthew

2836
02:03:13,030 --> 02:03:09,440
for me is watching

2837
02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:13,040
the world step into the darkness

2838
02:03:20,229 --> 02:03:16,960
and the abyss and the negativity

2839
02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:20,239
the fighting the hatred that

2840
02:03:27,109 --> 02:03:24,239
is going on right now in in social media

2841
02:03:27,990 --> 02:03:27,119
it was virtually done overnight it

2842
02:03:31,189 --> 02:03:28,000
happened

2843
02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:31,199
so quick and it seemed so easy

2844
02:03:35,830 --> 02:03:34,239
but everybody took the bait and when i

2845
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:35,840
say everybody everybody if you're on

2846
02:03:39,270 --> 02:03:36,800
social media

2847
02:03:40,149 --> 02:03:39,280
you're you're in your own bubble right

2848
02:03:43,510 --> 02:03:40,159
now

2849
02:03:46,790 --> 02:03:43,520
you think your world in social media

2850
02:03:50,229 --> 02:03:46,800
is everybody else's world and it is not

2851
02:03:53,790 --> 02:03:50,239
that is just your little bubble

2852
02:03:56,709 --> 02:03:53,800
and it is so ingrained now

2853
02:03:58,390 --> 02:03:56,719
philosophically that you can't change

2854
02:04:01,669 --> 02:03:58,400
people's minds

2855
02:04:05,189 --> 02:04:01,679
you can't you can't warn them about this

2856
02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:05,199
and they are in denial it's crazy

2857
02:04:14,149 --> 02:04:09,520
we went down this into the darkness

2858
02:04:17,350 --> 02:04:14,159
so quickly how did that happen

2859
02:04:19,109 --> 02:04:17,360
well first of all it's a great question

2860
02:04:23,030 --> 02:04:19,119
and a very good observation

2861
02:04:26,550 --> 02:04:23,040
um the darkness has is always

2862
02:04:29,669 --> 02:04:26,560
a guiding to the light is it not

2863
02:04:31,270 --> 02:04:29,679
so i believe that to our previous

2864
02:04:33,830 --> 02:04:31,280
conversation jimmy's we've

2865
02:04:34,629 --> 02:04:33,840
understood how where we've got with the

2866
02:04:37,189 --> 02:04:34,639
internet

2867
02:04:38,870 --> 02:04:37,199
and with social media services and now

2868
02:04:41,430 --> 02:04:38,880
we need to be mature

2869
02:04:42,629 --> 02:04:41,440
re-look at everything and to basically

2870
02:04:45,589 --> 02:04:42,639
move forward

2871
02:04:47,750 --> 02:04:45,599
with the understanding saying we're no

2872
02:04:50,069 --> 02:04:47,760
longer going to be controlling the

2873
02:04:52,709 --> 02:04:50,079
narrative in people's bubbles

2874
02:04:54,310 --> 02:04:52,719
we're going to do a different way which

2875
02:04:57,109 --> 02:04:54,320
is a democratic way

2876
02:04:57,990 --> 02:04:57,119
which is no longer controlling the

2877
02:05:00,550 --> 02:04:58,000
individual

2878
02:05:01,030 --> 02:05:00,560
right as i said earlier we don't search

2879
02:05:07,030 --> 02:05:01,040
google

2880
02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:07,040
tech um will have to change and in world

2881
02:05:13,030 --> 02:05:10,480
3.0 by the way big tech doesn't exist

2882
02:05:14,390 --> 02:05:13,040
now uh it was announced today well i

2883
02:05:18,149 --> 02:05:14,400
don't know how to undo it

2884
02:05:21,189 --> 02:05:20,149
no what i mean is i'm talking about

2885
02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:21,199
people's minds

2886
02:05:27,990 --> 02:05:24,960
you know how do we undo that we quickly

2887
02:05:31,589 --> 02:05:28,000
jumped into it we got wound up

2888
02:05:34,149 --> 02:05:31,599
i think it may be possible to unwind

2889
02:05:36,229 --> 02:05:34,159
just as quickly but you have to have

2890
02:05:39,430 --> 02:05:36,239
everybody on board and it's not just

2891
02:05:40,470 --> 02:05:39,440
the uh the internet and and the giant

2892
02:05:42,790 --> 02:05:40,480
tech companies

2893
02:05:44,629 --> 02:05:42,800
but it's also mass media they play a big

2894
02:05:48,310 --> 02:05:44,639
part in this too as well

2895
02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:48,320
and uh but maybe we can unwind

2896
02:05:51,910 --> 02:05:50,560
and get back to the light and you i

2897
02:05:53,510 --> 02:05:51,920
totally agree with you

2898
02:05:55,750 --> 02:05:53,520
sometimes you've got to go to the edge

2899
02:05:58,470 --> 02:05:55,760
of the cliff you got to see the darkness

2900
02:05:59,109 --> 02:05:58,480
you got to see how bad it can be you

2901
02:06:01,910 --> 02:05:59,119
know

2902
02:06:02,390 --> 02:06:01,920
warning about this which the warnings

2903
02:06:05,750 --> 02:06:02,400
have been

2904
02:06:07,430 --> 02:06:05,760
out there for 30 years way before the

2905
02:06:09,910 --> 02:06:07,440
internet was even here

2906
02:06:11,830 --> 02:06:09,920
the warning signs were there azimov and

2907
02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:11,840
everybody else wrote about this

2908
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:15,280
so uh but but maybe now

2909
02:06:23,109 --> 02:06:18,719
we have witnessed how dark it it can be

2910
02:06:26,149 --> 02:06:23,119
but uh the other part is this

2911
02:06:29,510 --> 02:06:26,159
in the unwinding is it

2912
02:06:30,790 --> 02:06:29,520
about what google said today they made

2913
02:06:33,830 --> 02:06:30,800
an announcement

2914
02:06:36,870 --> 02:06:33,840
that they are no longer going to

2915
02:06:40,470 --> 02:06:36,880
allow third-party cookies in

2916
02:06:43,510 --> 02:06:40,480
chrome now that is one of the

2917
02:06:44,069 --> 02:06:43,520
heaviest things that google could ever

2918
02:06:45,910 --> 02:06:44,079
propose

2919
02:06:47,270 --> 02:06:45,920
it sounds simple right okay no

2920
02:06:50,629 --> 02:06:47,280
third-party cookies

2921
02:06:53,830 --> 02:06:50,639
that's what drives their ai

2922
02:06:55,990 --> 02:06:53,840
that's what drives their revenue stream

2923
02:06:57,030 --> 02:06:56,000
so google knows something that we don't

2924
02:06:58,950 --> 02:06:57,040
that's i i go

2925
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,960
dark first right they've got another

2926
02:07:01,510 --> 02:07:00,400
plan in play they're not going to give

2927
02:07:02,870 --> 02:07:01,520
away money

2928
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:02,880
they're not going to give up their

2929
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:05,040
profitability but

2930
02:07:08,950 --> 02:07:07,360
by removing third-party cookies all of

2931
02:07:12,470 --> 02:07:08,960
their ai engines

2932
02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:12,480
driving individuality is now

2933
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:15,520
technically removed and that would be a

2934
02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:18,880
step in the right direction right

2935
02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:23,440
it would um also google were

2936
02:07:29,669 --> 02:07:26,480
their sponsorship was declined by

2937
02:07:31,830 --> 02:07:29,679
a big ai ethics group uh today an

2938
02:07:35,589 --> 02:07:31,840
international ai ethics group

2939
02:07:37,750 --> 02:07:35,599
uh because of what's been going on um

2940
02:07:39,270 --> 02:07:37,760
i think what we're seeing is and google

2941
02:07:40,709 --> 02:07:39,280
talked about this two years ago jimmy

2942
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:40,719
that they were gonna remove cookies

2943
02:07:43,750 --> 02:07:41,199
anyway

2944
02:07:45,189 --> 02:07:43,760
so this has been planned for a while i

2945
02:07:47,830 --> 02:07:45,199
suspect it's come from

2946
02:07:49,510 --> 02:07:47,840
pressure from government uh pressures

2947
02:07:52,229 --> 02:07:49,520
from investors and also

2948
02:07:54,310 --> 02:07:52,239
just generally general unrest is it you

2949
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:54,320
know the shelter saying to the ceo

2950
02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:55,840
why are you why are you in front of

2951
02:07:59,910 --> 02:07:57,760
congress again you know

2952
02:08:01,910 --> 02:07:59,920
so i suspect there's pressure coming

2953
02:08:04,950 --> 02:08:01,920
there um

2954
02:08:06,629 --> 02:08:04,960
do google know something potentially um

2955
02:08:08,709 --> 02:08:06,639
but it feels like a move in the right

2956
02:08:10,790 --> 02:08:08,719
direction doesn't it

2957
02:08:13,510 --> 02:08:10,800
but we need to go much further and i

2958
02:08:17,270 --> 02:08:13,520
think this is the question of the decade

2959
02:08:18,870 --> 02:08:17,280
is is our data an extension of the

2960
02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:18,880
sovereign experience

2961
02:08:25,589 --> 02:08:22,400
and if it is then we need sovereign

2962
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:25,599
ownership and control of our data

2963
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:27,920
and so this the battle for data

2964
02:08:31,830 --> 02:08:28,960
ownership jimmy

2965
02:08:32,470 --> 02:08:31,840
i think is the next big battle that's

2966
02:08:35,589 --> 02:08:32,480
coming

2967
02:08:36,229 --> 02:08:35,599
with big tech and governments uh trying

2968
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:36,239
to

2969
02:08:41,270 --> 02:08:39,520
uh honor the citizens of its country

2970
02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:41,280
but the problem is and we saw this in

2971
02:08:46,229 --> 02:08:43,840
contracts in the context rating apps

2972
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:46,239
is that sometimes big tech moves faster

2973
02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:48,000
than policy and government

2974
02:08:51,589 --> 02:08:49,679
so government needs to move quicker and

2975
02:08:52,709 --> 02:08:51,599
this is why i think regional governments

2976
02:08:54,470 --> 02:08:52,719
and state governments

2977
02:08:56,149 --> 02:08:54,480
with less red tape although it does have

2978
02:08:57,589 --> 02:08:56,159
political agenda of course

2979
02:08:59,350 --> 02:08:57,599
can actually do something like

2980
02:09:02,629 --> 02:08:59,360
washington state and say

2981
02:09:05,750 --> 02:09:02,639
you shall not pass unless your ai

2982
02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:05,760
honors our cultural diversity and

2983
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:09,520
does not profile any of our citizens

2984
02:09:13,430 --> 02:09:11,440
so i think it's a mixture of a number of

2985
02:09:14,149 --> 02:09:13,440
factors jimmy i think it's shareholder

2986
02:09:19,350 --> 02:09:14,159
pressure

2987
02:09:21,189 --> 02:09:19,360
maybe google now realizes that it needs

2988
02:09:23,189 --> 02:09:21,199
to become an ethical company because of

2989
02:09:25,669 --> 02:09:23,199
all the press it's getting and all the

2990
02:09:26,550 --> 02:09:25,679
all the bad karma if you like coming its

2991
02:09:29,589 --> 02:09:26,560
way

2992
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:29,599
should i be able

2993
02:09:37,589 --> 02:09:33,040
to not only own my data

2994
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:37,599
but shouldn't i be able to sell it

2995
02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:39,360
trade it yes so you might want to trade

2996
02:09:44,069 --> 02:09:40,800
it for a micro second

2997
02:09:45,270 --> 02:09:44,079
in return for something maybe for a

2998
02:09:49,189 --> 02:09:45,280
millisecond

2999
02:09:50,229 --> 02:09:49,199
there will be a new trading uh kind of a

3000
02:09:52,229 --> 02:09:50,239
platform

3001
02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:52,239
but you'll have agency over your data

3002
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:53,440
jimmy so you could say

3003
02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:55,119
i'd like to trade my data for one

3004
02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:57,199
millisecond because i want a purple

3005
02:09:59,990 --> 02:09:57,840
guitar

3006
02:10:01,350 --> 02:10:00,000
behind me right on my stage and it's a

3007
02:10:03,430 --> 02:10:01,360
good transaction right

3008
02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:03,440
you gotta you gotta you gotta use the

3009
02:10:10,470 --> 02:10:09,030
okay all right maybe for another fair

3010
02:10:14,950 --> 02:10:10,480
enough yeah fair enough

3011
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:14,960
fair enough so yes you should be able to

3012
02:10:18,310 --> 02:10:16,000
trade your data

3013
02:10:19,589 --> 02:10:18,320
but at the moment we're not even in the

3014
02:10:21,669 --> 02:10:19,599
conversation jimmy

3015
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:21,679
we're not even being given the choice

3016
02:10:26,390 --> 02:10:23,520
it's just taken from us

3017
02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:26,400
and it is not democratic so i think this

3018
02:10:31,270 --> 02:10:27,679
is the big conversation

3019
02:10:34,950 --> 02:10:31,280
and in world 2.0 we start to develop

3020
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:34,960
uh these uh uh new governance laws where

3021
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:35,440
you have

3022
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:37,920
agency over your data and start to trade

3023
02:10:40,470 --> 02:10:38,639
it

3024
02:10:42,069 --> 02:10:40,480
because you're involved in the trading

3025
02:10:44,709 --> 02:10:42,079
the services you want in your life

3026
02:10:46,310 --> 02:10:44,719
maybe it's for you know maybe it's for

3027
02:10:48,069 --> 02:10:46,320
two milliseconds to get

3028
02:10:49,830 --> 02:10:48,079
one of the famous coffees you talk about

3029
02:10:53,589 --> 02:10:49,840
you know sure sure

3030
02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:53,599
and i had uh i saw a bunch of research

3031
02:10:56,629 --> 02:10:56,159
a couple of years ago which was one of

3032
02:10:58,470 --> 02:10:56,639
the most

3033
02:11:00,229 --> 02:10:58,480
eye-opening and i spoke about this quite

3034
02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:00,239
a bit here on the show

3035
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:03,280
was that not only is data

3036
02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:07,280
valuable but to all of the big companies

3037
02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:08,400
that you would never even

3038
02:11:15,030 --> 02:11:12,320
think of it's their most profitable part

3039
02:11:16,149 --> 02:11:15,040
of the company i'm talking about at t

3040
02:11:20,470 --> 02:11:16,159
for instance

3041
02:11:22,470 --> 02:11:20,480
att your data for a t

3042
02:11:24,229 --> 02:11:22,480
is way profitable because all they're

3043
02:11:25,510 --> 02:11:24,239
doing is there's no hardware involved

3044
02:11:27,589 --> 02:11:25,520
there's no manufacturing

3045
02:11:30,069 --> 02:11:27,599
involved there's no logistics involved

3046
02:11:33,910 --> 02:11:30,079
there's no shipping involved

3047
02:11:35,910 --> 02:11:33,920
it's just a software that is sold to the

3048
02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:35,920
highest bidder and they sell it to

3049
02:11:39,669 --> 02:11:37,040
everybody

3050
02:11:41,350 --> 02:11:39,679
and that is where the real profits are

3051
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:41,360
and it goes across the board

3052
02:11:45,589 --> 02:11:44,320
doesn't it yeah it does and this is

3053
02:11:46,069 --> 02:11:45,599
you've now got to the heart of the

3054
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:46,079
matter

3055
02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:49,679
of how citizens can now be empowered

3056
02:11:56,390 --> 02:11:54,239
without data ai cannot exist

3057
02:11:57,430 --> 02:11:56,400
so this is why it's important for

3058
02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:57,440
citizens

3059
02:12:01,430 --> 02:11:59,760
to take back ownership of their data for

3060
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:01,440
government to give it back

3061
02:12:06,470 --> 02:12:04,560
in order for the general public to be

3062
02:12:08,629 --> 02:12:06,480
able to trust government again or

3063
02:12:10,709 --> 02:12:08,639
and trust business again because they're

3064
02:12:11,589 --> 02:12:10,719
seeing how their data is used in every

3065
02:12:13,109 --> 02:12:11,599
aspect

3066
02:12:14,709 --> 02:12:13,119
and then they can really innovate

3067
02:12:16,870 --> 02:12:14,719
ethically but the

3068
02:12:18,709 --> 02:12:16,880
data that's owned by the citizens or

3069
02:12:21,270 --> 02:12:18,719
should be is what gives

3070
02:12:23,270 --> 02:12:21,280
life to artificial intelligence it puts

3071
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:23,280
the oxygen inside it jimmy

3072
02:12:26,629 --> 02:12:26,000
so the general public have always had

3073
02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:26,639
control

3074
02:12:29,750 --> 02:12:27,840
over the future of artificial

3075
02:12:32,149 --> 02:12:29,760
intelligence and i

3076
02:12:34,069 --> 02:12:32,159
we always hear the reference uh going

3077
02:12:37,990 --> 02:12:34,079
back to 1984 and george

3078
02:12:41,510 --> 02:12:38,000
orwell and and and where we are

3079
02:12:42,310 --> 02:12:41,520
as a society today again being warned

3080
02:12:44,950 --> 02:12:42,320
about it

3081
02:12:45,990 --> 02:12:44,960
warned about everybody just we've seen

3082
02:12:49,109 --> 02:12:46,000
the movie we've

3083
02:12:51,350 --> 02:12:49,119
it we've read the books and yet we

3084
02:12:54,990 --> 02:12:51,360
allowed it to happen

3085
02:12:59,589 --> 02:12:55,000
why did we get lazy that why did we

3086
02:13:03,589 --> 02:12:59,599
absolutely get lazy is it greed

3087
02:13:04,390 --> 02:13:03,599
is it laziness we were led into a honey

3088
02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:04,400
trap

3089
02:13:10,310 --> 02:13:07,599
a free service

3090
02:13:12,310 --> 02:13:10,320
if you give me your data and so it was a

3091
02:13:14,470 --> 02:13:12,320
honey trap to a certain extent now

3092
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:14,480
was there deliberate intent into the

3093
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:16,800
honey trap probably not i i suspect a

3094
02:13:19,430 --> 02:13:17,840
lot of big tech

3095
02:13:21,030 --> 02:13:19,440
are probably still understanding

3096
02:13:22,550 --> 02:13:21,040
artificial intelligence and what it

3097
02:13:24,069 --> 02:13:22,560
actually means and i'm sure

3098
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:24,079
there's actually a lot of conversations

3099
02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:26,239
inside big tech saying you know it's not

3100
02:13:29,109 --> 02:13:27,280
doing well here

3101
02:13:30,790 --> 02:13:29,119
and we need to do better i hope those

3102
02:13:33,189 --> 02:13:30,800
conversations are going on

3103
02:13:34,950 --> 02:13:33,199
but we've kind of sold our soul haven't

3104
02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:34,960
we add digital soul

3105
02:13:39,589 --> 02:13:38,079
to big tech for you know services that

3106
02:13:40,709 --> 02:13:39,599
give us a good feeling for a moment

3107
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:40,719
through clickbait

3108
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:42,880
or you know more clicks on a particular

3109
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:44,560
video or seeing an

3110
02:13:48,149 --> 02:13:46,159
image that makes us feel good because

3111
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:48,159
they know our psychological profile

3112
02:13:51,589 --> 02:13:50,320
we sold that diesel soul into a honey

3113
02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:51,599
trap

3114
02:13:57,990 --> 02:13:54,800
and and the deeper if deeper

3115
02:14:03,430 --> 02:13:58,000
philosophical side of that

3116
02:14:06,790 --> 02:14:03,440
is that we it's opium for the masses

3117
02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:06,800
we we get that chemical change in our

3118
02:14:12,149 --> 02:14:08,480
brain

3119
02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:12,159
the satisfaction the the addiction

3120
02:14:18,790 --> 02:14:15,520
the fix if you will right we

3121
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:18,800
love it we need more of it we

3122
02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:23,040
got to screen time screen time we need

3123
02:14:29,750 --> 02:14:26,400
more and big tech figured that

3124
02:14:32,950 --> 02:14:29,760
part out is that this

3125
02:14:36,069 --> 02:14:32,960
craziest thing ever the the meetings

3126
02:14:39,270 --> 02:14:36,079
and the development of this that went on

3127
02:14:40,470 --> 02:14:39,280
the darkness of the content of those

3128
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:40,480
meetings

3129
02:14:44,390 --> 02:14:43,040
on how to because it's all about profits

3130
02:14:46,629 --> 02:14:44,400
in the end

3131
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:46,639
we've got to figure this out we need

3132
02:14:50,149 --> 02:14:47,760
everybody to

3133
02:14:50,870 --> 02:14:50,159
ignore their family and friends their

3134
02:14:53,910 --> 02:14:50,880
life

3135
02:14:55,270 --> 02:14:53,920
their jobs their pets stop cleaning

3136
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:55,280
their houses

3137
02:15:00,310 --> 02:14:58,560
they need face time and

3138
02:15:02,870 --> 02:15:00,320
they figured out a way to make that a

3139
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:02,880
drug because we get so much satisfaction

3140
02:15:08,069 --> 02:15:04,480
out of it

3141
02:15:10,069 --> 02:15:08,079
as crazy as that is that's the truth it

3142
02:15:13,669 --> 02:15:10,079
is the truth you're absolutely right

3143
02:15:14,629 --> 02:15:13,679
and so this is why um i wrote the book

3144
02:15:17,910 --> 02:15:14,639
because

3145
02:15:19,430 --> 02:15:17,920
um humanity is not at rest jimmy we're

3146
02:15:21,830 --> 02:15:19,440
not at rest

3147
02:15:23,750 --> 02:15:21,840
our screens our emails we're always

3148
02:15:24,310 --> 02:15:23,760
getting our attention is always being

3149
02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:24,320
pulled

3150
02:15:31,990 --> 02:15:27,840
into big tech experience so this is why

3151
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:32,000
in world 3.0 ai our personal ai puts us

3152
02:15:35,109 --> 02:15:34,000
a rest because it deals with all that on

3153
02:15:37,030 --> 02:15:35,119
our behalf

3154
02:15:39,669 --> 02:15:37,040
less screen time because it's being more

3155
02:15:41,589 --> 02:15:39,679
intelligent in what benefits us

3156
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:41,599
it connects to those that are really

3157
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:43,920
important to us it makes sure our mental

3158
02:15:47,109 --> 02:15:44,560
health is

3159
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:47,119
really good it makes sure that we're

3160
02:15:52,149 --> 02:15:48,719
flourishing in our gifts

3161
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:52,159
and in our dharma so ai itself can help

3162
02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:53,520
us to get away

3163
02:16:02,069 --> 02:15:56,719
jimmy from big tech ai

3164
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:05,270
should there be a limit

3165
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:08,320
to screen time in other words

3166
02:16:11,510 --> 02:16:10,000
right here here you know i've got the

3167
02:16:14,229 --> 02:16:11,520
latest and greatest iphone

3168
02:16:15,669 --> 02:16:14,239
right nice big i got the super max or

3169
02:16:17,589 --> 02:16:15,679
whatever they call it you know

3170
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:17,599
i need to make sure i can see everything

3171
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:18,960
with my old eyes

3172
02:16:23,109 --> 02:16:21,280
and it's the perfect it's like the last

3173
02:16:26,310 --> 02:16:23,119
device i'll ever need to own

3174
02:16:30,390 --> 02:16:26,320
right i've convinced myself of that

3175
02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:30,400
what if i could only have

3176
02:16:36,709 --> 02:16:34,080
60 minutes a day of social media

3177
02:16:38,629 --> 02:16:36,719
i can make all the phone calls i want i

3178
02:16:42,549 --> 02:16:38,639
can text

3179
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:42,559
social media one hour a day

3180
02:16:45,669 --> 02:16:44,559
i think that's a great idea what do you

3181
02:16:48,950 --> 02:16:45,679
think that would do

3182
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:48,960
to the energy levels of the individual

3183
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:51,280
and to the overall energy levels of the

3184
02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:53,040
united states of america

3185
02:16:57,349 --> 02:16:56,319
you know it i my kids would lose their

3186
02:17:00,549 --> 02:16:57,359
minds

3187
02:17:02,950 --> 02:17:00,559
but but

3188
02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:02,960
that's that's where we find ourselves at

3189
02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:03,840
i mean i'm just

3190
02:17:07,429 --> 02:17:05,920
thinking outside of the box there's

3191
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:07,439
plenty of people out there that

3192
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:11,120
are going no what you can't do that

3193
02:17:16,309 --> 02:17:13,040
especially after the pandemic

3194
02:17:18,950 --> 02:17:16,319
right 2020 that's what saved

3195
02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:18,960
the world where people were able to

3196
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:20,880
escape into the internet

3197
02:17:24,389 --> 02:17:23,040
as they're locked in their homes for for

3198
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:24,399
12 months

3199
02:17:31,589 --> 02:17:27,760
but i'll say this i

3200
02:17:34,469 --> 02:17:31,599
spend three hours a night

3201
02:17:35,990 --> 02:17:34,479
interviewing somebody i'm not on the

3202
02:17:39,509 --> 02:17:36,000
internet

3203
02:17:42,549 --> 02:17:39,519
i'm not i'm just having a conversation

3204
02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:42,559
for three hours with somebody who does

3205
02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:45,920
that today nobody

3206
02:17:49,990 --> 02:17:48,160
right and i can look back at the last

3207
02:17:53,429 --> 02:17:50,000
eight ten years that i've done

3208
02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:53,439
this show going back to 2008

3209
02:17:57,910 --> 02:17:56,559
where i am able to escape the internet

3210
02:18:01,990 --> 02:17:57,920
for three hours

3211
02:18:03,110 --> 02:18:02,000
a day and learn and have a conversation

3212
02:18:05,669 --> 02:18:03,120
with somebody

3213
02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:05,679
and i'm telling you it's fundamentally

3214
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:07,760
changed me

3215
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:12,080
right and i i can see that i can feel it

3216
02:18:16,629 --> 02:18:14,160
maybe it's something that we could all

3217
02:18:18,070 --> 02:18:16,639
learn from and benefit from as crazy as

3218
02:18:21,589 --> 02:18:18,080
it sounds

3219
02:18:23,110 --> 02:18:21,599
right yeah this is this is brilliant

3220
02:18:23,990 --> 02:18:23,120
this is this is absolutely fantastic

3221
02:18:26,070 --> 02:18:24,000
because

3222
02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:26,080
you you've hit the nail on the head is

3223
02:18:30,070 --> 02:18:27,359
how do we

3224
02:18:31,669 --> 02:18:30,080
nurture our own well-being and having

3225
02:18:34,549 --> 02:18:31,679
the awareness that you show

3226
02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:34,559
to say actually this is how my life's

3227
02:18:37,509 --> 02:18:35,200
improving

3228
02:18:39,190 --> 02:18:37,519
shows great awareness and so how do we

3229
02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:39,200
bring this to the population

3230
02:18:43,270 --> 02:18:41,519
how do we enable the population to have

3231
02:18:46,629 --> 02:18:43,280
a choice to have less screen time

3232
02:18:49,429 --> 02:18:46,639
and more me time and so

3233
02:18:51,589 --> 02:18:49,439
this is where i think that ai can help

3234
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:51,599
because it can take care of all this

3235
02:18:54,309 --> 02:18:52,000
social

3236
02:18:56,950 --> 02:18:54,319
media big tech stuff and just feed us

3237
02:18:59,990 --> 02:18:56,960
the right information within 60 minutes

3238
02:19:01,349 --> 02:19:00,000
so i i walk in nature jimmy i walk in

3239
02:19:03,830 --> 02:19:01,359
nature all the time

3240
02:19:05,509 --> 02:19:03,840
and that's because i have to get away

3241
02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:05,519
from all the wi-fi signals

3242
02:19:09,910 --> 02:19:07,519
i have to be in the vibration energy of

3243
02:19:12,309 --> 02:19:09,920
nature because that's self-nurturing

3244
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,319
and so i think these are important human

3245
02:19:17,110 --> 02:19:14,160
characteristics that we can't lose

3246
02:19:17,669 --> 02:19:17,120
and we need to rediscover again maybe is

3247
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:17,679
um

3248
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:21,040
ultimately whatever you want to call it

3249
02:19:24,469 --> 02:19:22,960
you know the illuminati the puppet

3250
02:19:27,190 --> 02:19:24,479
masters

3251
02:19:27,910 --> 02:19:27,200
you know the bankers whatever you want

3252
02:19:29,830 --> 02:19:27,920
to you know

3253
02:19:31,589 --> 02:19:29,840
you know who is secretly running the

3254
02:19:33,750 --> 02:19:31,599
world and their agendas

3255
02:19:35,669 --> 02:19:33,760
the reptilians i'm kidding that was just

3256
02:19:39,509 --> 02:19:35,679
a joke

3257
02:19:42,150 --> 02:19:39,519
no the the youtube ai just dialed in on

3258
02:19:45,429 --> 02:19:42,160
that right there he said reptilians

3259
02:19:48,469 --> 02:19:45,439
we need to demonetize this platform but

3260
02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:48,479
um uh

3261
02:19:52,630 --> 02:19:51,520
they know that they can control four

3262
02:19:56,309 --> 02:19:52,640
billion people

3263
02:19:59,590 --> 02:19:56,319
with nanoseconds of information

3264
02:20:00,950 --> 02:19:59,600
they can change an ebb and flow of of

3265
02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:00,960
emotions

3266
02:20:04,070 --> 02:20:02,800
they know that they've got this kind of

3267
02:20:07,349 --> 02:20:04,080
control

3268
02:20:10,309 --> 02:20:07,359
i i don't know how willing they are

3269
02:20:11,990 --> 02:20:10,319
to give that up when we talk about the

3270
02:20:14,790 --> 02:20:12,000
bank

3271
02:20:16,309 --> 02:20:14,800
fundamentally the media outlets are just

3272
02:20:19,190 --> 02:20:16,319
owned by a few

3273
02:20:19,510 --> 02:20:19,200
uh banks above them and that trickles

3274
02:20:22,469 --> 02:20:19,520
down

3275
02:20:23,830 --> 02:20:22,479
into a few other sources and that also

3276
02:20:27,030 --> 02:20:23,840
goes into big tech

3277
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:27,040
but ultimately there's a pyramid

3278
02:20:31,510 --> 02:20:30,160
that that goes up that's it that's just

3279
02:20:34,389 --> 02:20:31,520
the way that it is

3280
02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:34,399
the control and the growth and the

3281
02:20:39,270 --> 02:20:36,160
happiness in the private island

3282
02:20:41,510 --> 02:20:39,280
in fiji is done with that opium for the

3283
02:20:44,630 --> 02:20:41,520
masses and that screen time

3284
02:20:47,510 --> 02:20:44,640
and i don't know how easy it is for them

3285
02:20:54,469 --> 02:20:52,070
so um is this a possibility there is a

3286
02:20:58,150 --> 02:20:54,479
pyramid scheme to control humanity

3287
02:20:59,190 --> 02:20:58,160
uh possibly um or it might just be just

3288
02:21:01,830 --> 02:20:59,200
utter chaos

3289
02:21:02,950 --> 02:21:01,840
right and and so there's different ways

3290
02:21:06,150 --> 02:21:02,960
of looking at this

3291
02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:06,160
um when you say four billion people

3292
02:21:10,389 --> 02:21:08,800
um just to let your audience know that's

3293
02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:10,399
half the world's population they're on

3294
02:21:13,429 --> 02:21:11,200
social media

3295
02:21:15,110 --> 02:21:13,439
so 7.8 so you're absolutely right for

3296
02:21:17,590 --> 02:21:15,120
half the world's population jimmy

3297
02:21:18,790 --> 02:21:17,600
are on social media and so yes they can

3298
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:18,800
control the narrative

3299
02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:21,520
in a fraction of a second so the

3300
02:21:27,110 --> 02:21:22,800
question is

3301
02:21:30,870 --> 02:21:27,120
um how do we

3302
02:21:32,070 --> 02:21:30,880
how do we um change the direction of

3303
02:21:35,349 --> 02:21:32,080
power

3304
02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:35,359
the choice

3305
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:38,000
and surely that should come down to the

3306
02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:40,319
democracy of we the people i.e the

3307
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:42,080
citizens themselves

3308
02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:44,560
and so this is this is what and so jimmy

3309
02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:45,359
i think we're on

3310
02:21:49,110 --> 02:21:47,280
the edge of an awakening like i said

3311
02:21:51,190 --> 02:21:49,120
before where people are starting to

3312
02:21:51,830 --> 02:21:51,200
realize this agenda that's running at

3313
02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:51,840
the moment

3314
02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:53,600
whether it's deliberate or whether it's

3315
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:55,439
just chaos it doesn't really matter

3316
02:21:58,950 --> 02:21:57,920
the fact is things need to change and so

3317
02:22:01,190 --> 02:21:58,960
i think

3318
02:22:02,790 --> 02:22:01,200
that uh people like yourselves and many

3319
02:22:04,550 --> 02:22:02,800
others are starting to understand a

3320
02:22:06,469 --> 02:22:04,560
different narrative is needed

3321
02:22:08,309 --> 02:22:06,479
and so how do we take control of that

3322
02:22:10,309 --> 02:22:08,319
narrative and redirect

3323
02:22:11,590 --> 02:22:10,319
the the narrative and that's why i wrote

3324
02:22:15,349 --> 02:22:11,600
the book so

3325
02:22:17,670 --> 02:22:15,359
yes uh we can be influenced uh globally

3326
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:17,680
um are there people that probably have

3327
02:22:21,830 --> 02:22:18,479
that agenda

3328
02:22:24,469 --> 02:22:21,840
absolutely um but i suspect it's more

3329
02:22:26,309 --> 02:22:24,479
down to chaos and actually incompetence

3330
02:22:28,230 --> 02:22:26,319
um and that's why i think we need a new

3331
02:22:30,389 --> 02:22:28,240
material mindset jimmy one that's

3332
02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:30,399
enlightened and one that actually

3333
02:22:33,910 --> 02:22:31,680
understands that

3334
02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:33,920
humanity has a destiny and it ain't

3335
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:35,280
being on social media

3336
02:22:39,110 --> 02:22:38,319
24 hours a day you uh you point out in

3337
02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:39,120
the book

3338
02:22:47,590 --> 02:22:42,560
and i just thought wow that's uh

3339
02:22:51,270 --> 02:22:47,600
it's it's genius but you address

3340
02:22:53,830 --> 02:22:51,280
politicians government leaders directly

3341
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:53,840
in the beginning of the book you can

3342
02:22:59,110 --> 02:22:55,600
change your country

3343
02:23:01,030 --> 02:22:59,120
this book will help you and the citizens

3344
02:23:02,870 --> 02:23:01,040
of your country and i thought okay

3345
02:23:06,550 --> 02:23:02,880
that's that's bold

3346
02:23:10,070 --> 02:23:06,560
but you are intentionally focused

3347
02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:10,080
at that and then there's another section

3348
02:23:16,630 --> 02:23:13,600
in the book where you are talking to

3349
02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:16,640
the developers the coders

3350
02:23:22,870 --> 02:23:19,840
and how this is to be distributed

3351
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:22,880
amongst them too as well so everybody is

3352
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:23,439
aware

3353
02:23:29,270 --> 02:23:27,120
at the same time right governments are

3354
02:23:31,429 --> 02:23:29,280
are not receiving a different ethical

3355
02:23:34,710 --> 02:23:31,439
standard and suggestion

3356
02:23:35,830 --> 02:23:34,720
than private corporations it's a very

3357
02:23:38,630 --> 02:23:35,840
genius move

3358
02:23:39,750 --> 02:23:38,640
but how can you guarantee that this gets

3359
02:23:44,830 --> 02:23:39,760
into the hands

3360
02:23:48,630 --> 02:23:44,840
of of politicians and leaders and

3361
02:23:52,150 --> 02:23:48,640
google and facebook and those coders

3362
02:23:54,870 --> 02:23:52,160
will they take the time to read this

3363
02:23:55,349 --> 02:23:54,880
that's a great question so so how do you

3364
02:23:58,309 --> 02:23:55,359
uh

3365
02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:58,319
um create a new phenomenon i've done it

3366
02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:00,640
once before with the internet of things

3367
02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:04,560
and so it's a new movement um that's why

3368
02:24:07,910 --> 02:24:06,560
i asked one of my very good friends

3369
02:24:09,910 --> 02:24:07,920
who's an ai guru

3370
02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:09,920
intel to write the forward she's a

3371
02:24:15,270 --> 02:24:11,680
unbelievable genius

3372
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:15,280
and uh incredible individual um

3373
02:24:18,950 --> 02:24:17,200
and um you're together on the show

3374
02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:18,960
should be really interesting

3375
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:20,560
she scared the crap out of me with the

3376
02:24:24,389 --> 02:24:22,000
forward by the way

3377
02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:24,399
but yeah yeah yeah yeah go ahead go

3378
02:24:29,590 --> 02:24:26,000
ahead

3379
02:24:31,750 --> 02:24:29,600
so so how do we do this so um

3380
02:24:33,349 --> 02:24:31,760
i've launched ai ethics.world which is a

3381
02:24:35,270 --> 02:24:33,359
business for business government

3382
02:24:38,230 --> 02:24:35,280
developers to learn about this

3383
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:38,240
um i'm about to get endorsement by a

3384
02:24:40,790 --> 02:24:39,680
very big tech billionaire and

3385
02:24:42,230 --> 02:24:40,800
philanthropist and

3386
02:24:44,150 --> 02:24:42,240
seasoned author that's globally

3387
02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:44,160
respected um

3388
02:24:47,750 --> 02:24:46,560
and also i'm in discussions with a

3389
02:24:49,270 --> 02:24:47,760
number of universities

3390
02:24:51,030 --> 02:24:49,280
around them having this a standard

3391
02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:51,040
curriculum um

3392
02:24:54,870 --> 02:24:53,439
and also i'm kind of doing talk shows

3393
02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:54,880
like this jimmy with people like

3394
02:24:58,790 --> 02:24:56,080
yourselves where

3395
02:24:59,590 --> 02:24:58,800
the message has to be shared so it takes

3396
02:25:01,750 --> 02:24:59,600
time

3397
02:25:02,630 --> 02:25:01,760
but the book is doing very well i have

3398
02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:02,640
not received

3399
02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:05,040
one negative comment about the book so

3400
02:25:07,429 --> 02:25:05,680
far

3401
02:25:08,550 --> 02:25:07,439
and it's gone to hundreds and hundreds

3402
02:25:10,309 --> 02:25:08,560
of people hundreds and hundreds of

3403
02:25:11,349 --> 02:25:10,319
people bought it and it's just grown

3404
02:25:13,110 --> 02:25:11,359
more and more

3405
02:25:14,550 --> 02:25:13,120
so people are starting to understand

3406
02:25:18,070 --> 02:25:14,560
there's a new way

3407
02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:18,080
uh for our culture to move forward

3408
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:20,560
in its diversity so it's taking time but

3409
02:25:24,790 --> 02:25:21,600
we're getting there

3410
02:25:28,550 --> 02:25:24,800
it's uh catalan walcott by the way and

3411
02:25:31,910 --> 02:25:28,560
uh check this out cto ambient

3412
02:25:35,110 --> 02:25:31,920
science for the intel corporation

3413
02:25:36,710 --> 02:25:35,120
right it's a it's a strong yeah yeah

3414
02:25:39,990 --> 02:25:36,720
it's a strong forward uh

3415
02:25:41,590 --> 02:25:40,000
uh to the book um the other uh

3416
02:25:43,270 --> 02:25:41,600
uh and i want to get you back on the

3417
02:25:46,389 --> 02:25:43,280
show we're out of time

3418
02:25:48,150 --> 02:25:46,399
but uh the internet of things um

3419
02:25:49,670 --> 02:25:48,160
which we didn't get into tonight i want

3420
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:49,680
to invite you back so

3421
02:25:56,309 --> 02:25:53,359
we can discuss that when um

3422
02:25:57,670 --> 02:25:56,319
i have a a very close friend uh he

3423
02:26:00,150 --> 02:25:57,680
writes code

3424
02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:00,160
and he had told me this is about seven

3425
02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:02,160
or eight years ago

3426
02:26:10,790 --> 02:26:06,479
that he was writing code

3427
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:10,800
or a bluetooth razor

3428
02:26:16,070 --> 02:26:14,960
right now way before anybody was talking

3429
02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:16,080
about this and then

3430
02:26:23,590 --> 02:26:19,359
a bathroom mirror and

3431
02:26:27,429 --> 02:26:23,600
and i thought about why would somebody

3432
02:26:30,870 --> 02:26:27,439
need a connected ra well you know what

3433
02:26:33,030 --> 02:26:30,880
it wasn't the razor that scared me

3434
02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:33,040
it was that if it's the razor then it's

3435
02:26:42,309 --> 02:26:35,280
everything else

3436
02:26:45,590 --> 02:26:42,319
it's a scare and hear it and it happened

3437
02:26:48,150 --> 02:26:45,600
it happened quickly that was like 2014

3438
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:48,160
and i laughed it off right here we are

3439
02:26:51,990 --> 02:26:50,640
in 2021 and there are people out there

3440
02:26:52,870 --> 02:26:52,000
listening to me right now where

3441
02:26:56,389 --> 02:26:52,880
everything in

3442
02:26:58,950 --> 02:26:56,399
their home is smart not my home

3443
02:26:59,670 --> 02:26:58,960
yeah it's a it's a real challenge and if

3444
02:27:02,230 --> 02:26:59,680
you look at

3445
02:27:02,870 --> 02:27:02,240
all these different you see we've been

3446
02:27:05,990 --> 02:27:02,880
sold

3447
02:27:08,710 --> 02:27:06,000
into this uh experience

3448
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:08,720
so for example smart watches jimmy like

3449
02:27:12,469 --> 02:27:09,840
fitbit and others

3450
02:27:13,750 --> 02:27:12,479
right you don't own that data by the way

3451
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:13,760
but they're getting data on your

3452
02:27:16,230 --> 02:27:14,640
well-being

3453
02:27:17,670 --> 02:27:16,240
and they're putting it together in ai

3454
02:27:19,910 --> 02:27:17,680
algorithms for

3455
02:27:21,270 --> 02:27:19,920
to resell without your knowledge and

3456
02:27:24,309 --> 02:27:21,280
also to use for other

3457
02:27:27,910 --> 02:27:24,319
types of services so this whole

3458
02:27:29,590 --> 02:27:27,920
uh agenda we want you to do well and we

3459
02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:29,600
get all these services how quickly we're

3460
02:27:32,230 --> 02:27:31,600
running our heartbeat is how healthy we

3461
02:27:33,990 --> 02:27:32,240
are

3462
02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:34,000
but we're selling our data sovereignty

3463
02:27:39,270 --> 02:27:36,800
for that now that may be a good trade

3464
02:27:40,710 --> 02:27:39,280
but there's very little they don't know

3465
02:27:43,990 --> 02:27:40,720
about us jimmy

3466
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:44,000
it's when when

3467
02:27:49,030 --> 02:27:47,520
somebody says to me that oh i've just

3468
02:27:51,830 --> 02:27:49,040
signed off the internet

3469
02:27:53,910 --> 02:27:51,840
i'm gonna go jump in my car right i'm

3470
02:27:57,590 --> 02:27:53,920
i'm in a safe zone

3471
02:28:00,230 --> 02:27:57,600
no you are not no you are not

3472
02:28:02,230 --> 02:28:00,240
they know you just left your home they

3473
02:28:05,990 --> 02:28:02,240
know where you are driving to

3474
02:28:09,590 --> 02:28:06,000
before you start your car

3475
02:28:13,110 --> 02:28:09,600
that is people don't do that right

3476
02:28:14,950 --> 02:28:13,120
yeah how much petrol's in the car when

3477
02:28:16,150 --> 02:28:14,960
was it service what's the potential

3478
02:28:18,070 --> 02:28:16,160
where you're probably going to head

3479
02:28:19,349 --> 02:28:18,080
to they're tracking you on google maps

3480
02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:19,359
they're tracking you to the cellular

3481
02:28:23,429 --> 02:28:21,520
mathematics of triangulation

3482
02:28:24,710 --> 02:28:23,439
um there's all sorts of different apps

3483
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:24,720
that are tracking you

3484
02:28:27,910 --> 02:28:26,880
um they're looking ahead see if i can

3485
02:28:29,990 --> 02:28:27,920
sell you something

3486
02:28:31,429 --> 02:28:30,000
if you go into a town because they know

3487
02:28:33,030 --> 02:28:31,439
you haven't eaten for a certain amount

3488
02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:33,040
of time and i know your favorite foods

3489
02:28:37,910 --> 02:28:34,240
pizza or burger

3490
02:28:41,190 --> 02:28:37,920
or maybe a you know a coffee yes jimmy

3491
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:41,200
this is here it's it's it's it's reality

3492
02:28:44,550 --> 02:28:42,160
it's real

3493
02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:44,560
you you go to the supermarket on

3494
02:28:48,070 --> 02:28:45,760
whatever day

3495
02:28:49,429 --> 02:28:48,080
and your stuff is rung up and you run

3496
02:28:50,950 --> 02:28:49,439
your credit card

3497
02:28:53,349 --> 02:28:50,960
everything you bought when you bought it

3498
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:53,359
and how you bought it is now

3499
02:29:00,070 --> 02:28:56,640
tagged that's it they know what

3500
02:29:01,190 --> 02:29:00,080
they know they know man they know it's

3501
02:29:04,710 --> 02:29:01,200
fascinating to me

3502
02:29:08,710 --> 02:29:04,720
i um uh uh you know what screw the break

3503
02:29:11,750 --> 02:29:08,720
i'm having too much fun i remember um

3504
02:29:12,469 --> 02:29:11,760
i i go out and i get in my car and i'm

3505
02:29:15,830 --> 02:29:12,479
driving

3506
02:29:18,790 --> 02:29:15,840
to uh a radio station to go to work

3507
02:29:19,190 --> 02:29:18,800
it's not that long ago and i get in the

3508
02:29:22,790 --> 02:29:19,200
car

3509
02:29:24,790 --> 02:29:22,800
and i started up and it literally said

3510
02:29:26,389 --> 02:29:24,800
10 minutes to the radio station

3511
02:29:29,830 --> 02:29:26,399
traffic's clear

3512
02:29:34,469 --> 02:29:29,840
like how how say

3513
02:29:34,790 --> 02:29:34,479
what right and and i was blown away i

3514
02:29:37,349 --> 02:29:34,800
was

3515
02:29:38,870 --> 02:29:37,359
absolutely it freaked me out i get to

3516
02:29:41,270 --> 02:29:38,880
the radio station i get on the air that

3517
02:29:44,710 --> 02:29:41,280
night and i start talking about this

3518
02:29:47,030 --> 02:29:44,720
and i sounded like i was a virgin

3519
02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:47,040
like i didn't hadn't experienced this

3520
02:29:50,150 --> 02:29:48,000
before

3521
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:50,160
and i thought i was breaking the news to

3522
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:51,200
the world

3523
02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:52,800
it was fascinating to me to get the

3524
02:29:56,710 --> 02:29:55,600
reaction from everybody yeah it happens

3525
02:29:59,270 --> 02:29:56,720
to me every day i

3526
02:30:01,429 --> 02:29:59,280
i get in my car and and there it is it

3527
02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:01,439
knows where i'm driving

3528
02:30:06,790 --> 02:30:04,960
you know it i it that's where i was

3529
02:30:10,469 --> 02:30:06,800
driving matthew

3530
02:30:13,590 --> 02:30:10,479
what if i was driving somewhere else

3531
02:30:16,630 --> 02:30:13,600
what if i threw it off

3532
02:30:17,910 --> 02:30:16,640
it crossed my mind it literally crossed

3533
02:30:21,429 --> 02:30:17,920
my mind you're going in the wrong

3534
02:30:26,070 --> 02:30:23,670
wow yeah he plays games yeah it plays

3535
02:30:29,510 --> 02:30:26,080
games with you this is the reality jimmy

3536
02:30:31,270 --> 02:30:29,520
and um you know i hear all the time

3537
02:30:34,469 --> 02:30:31,280
stories where people

3538
02:30:35,510 --> 02:30:34,479
have had a thought literally a thought

3539
02:30:37,670 --> 02:30:35,520
jimmy

3540
02:30:39,030 --> 02:30:37,680
and all of a sudden that appears on

3541
02:30:42,309 --> 02:30:39,040
youtube

3542
02:30:45,510 --> 02:30:42,319
now that's an interesting scenario

3543
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:45,520
look that's reality and and i know

3544
02:30:51,910 --> 02:30:48,880
i'm so disturbed by that

3545
02:30:53,590 --> 02:30:51,920
when uh when it got to the point where i

3546
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:53,600
started to see this happening

3547
02:30:57,910 --> 02:30:55,600
in my life i'm talking about it on the

3548
02:31:00,230 --> 02:30:57,920
air i see what's happening

3549
02:31:02,230 --> 02:31:00,240
i see stuff popping up in my news feed

3550
02:31:03,510 --> 02:31:02,240
that i know is completely private

3551
02:31:06,950 --> 02:31:03,520
information

3552
02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:06,960
i mean way out there stuff way

3553
02:31:11,349 --> 02:31:09,280
way beyond coincidence okay i'll give

3554
02:31:14,950 --> 02:31:11,359
you an example

3555
02:31:18,230 --> 02:31:14,960
i was at a vacation

3556
02:31:21,510 --> 02:31:18,240
home with my family and i

3557
02:31:25,270 --> 02:31:21,520
said i believe this is how it went down

3558
02:31:28,309 --> 02:31:25,280
and i said to rita my wife

3559
02:31:31,349 --> 02:31:28,319
i said wow look at this braided steel

3560
02:31:34,790 --> 02:31:31,359
cable on the patio here

3561
02:31:37,510 --> 02:31:34,800
for the railing it's beautiful

3562
02:31:38,070 --> 02:31:37,520
that's great right a couple of days

3563
02:31:41,590 --> 02:31:38,080
later

3564
02:31:44,150 --> 02:31:41,600
next day i'm you know and i get in my

3565
02:31:47,670 --> 02:31:44,160
new that was a conversation

3566
02:31:51,110 --> 02:31:47,680
that wasn't that braided steel cable

3567
02:31:54,230 --> 02:31:51,120
i get an ad on facebook

3568
02:31:56,469 --> 02:31:54,240
for beautiful braided steel cable for

3569
02:31:59,750 --> 02:31:56,479
your balcony

3570
02:32:03,030 --> 02:31:59,760
now wait a minute how who advertises

3571
02:32:04,630 --> 02:32:03,040
who is right now and i'm scared i go

3572
02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:04,640
reno you got to see this

3573
02:32:10,389 --> 02:32:07,840
look that wasn't a web search that was a

3574
02:32:13,110 --> 02:32:10,399
private conversation

3575
02:32:15,030 --> 02:32:13,120
well what's interesting is the ai that's

3576
02:32:18,070 --> 02:32:15,040
in your mobile phone jimmy

3577
02:32:19,990 --> 02:32:18,080
may be listening in and so

3578
02:32:21,590 --> 02:32:20,000
that's the way they probably got it to

3579
02:32:23,190 --> 02:32:21,600
you um

3580
02:32:25,429 --> 02:32:23,200
unless unless there's an alien

3581
02:32:28,710 --> 02:32:25,439
spacecraft kind of tuning in somewhere

3582
02:32:31,510 --> 02:32:28,720
well i remember when uh zuckerberg

3583
02:32:32,389 --> 02:32:31,520
was uh getting interrogated a couple of

3584
02:32:35,830 --> 02:32:32,399
years ago

3585
02:32:38,309 --> 02:32:35,840
uh at congress uh senate

3586
02:32:40,150 --> 02:32:38,319
and and one of the representatives said

3587
02:32:44,070 --> 02:32:40,160
look

3588
02:32:46,070 --> 02:32:44,080
this has happened to me and one of

3589
02:32:47,910 --> 02:32:46,080
the people that works for me was telling

3590
02:32:49,349 --> 02:32:47,920
me today that a private conversation

3591
02:32:51,590 --> 02:32:49,359
that they were having

3592
02:32:52,550 --> 02:32:51,600
showed up in advertising on the phone

3593
02:32:56,710 --> 02:32:52,560
are you guys

3594
02:32:59,030 --> 02:32:56,720
listening in and zuckerberg no

3595
02:33:00,469 --> 02:32:59,040
i thought not that i know of i don't

3596
02:33:03,710 --> 02:33:00,479
think uh

3597
02:33:05,670 --> 02:33:03,720
and he was i could tell he was

3598
02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:05,680
scrambling

3599
02:33:10,790 --> 02:33:08,800
right but to have a representative on

3600
02:33:13,190 --> 02:33:10,800
capitol hill bring this up

3601
02:33:14,790 --> 02:33:13,200
when i'm talking about it and my friends

3602
02:33:17,910 --> 02:33:14,800
are talking about it

3603
02:33:19,590 --> 02:33:17,920
this is this is a reality and they can

3604
02:33:22,950 --> 02:33:19,600
deny it all day long

3605
02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:22,960
but no braided steel cable does not

3606
02:33:30,469 --> 02:33:26,240
show up in an ad on my facebook feed

3607
02:33:33,670 --> 02:33:30,479
by coincidence that's exactly right and

3608
02:33:35,590 --> 02:33:33,680
and it may be facebook

3609
02:33:37,429 --> 02:33:35,600
listening in or it may be the handset

3610
02:33:38,950 --> 02:33:37,439
manufacturer is listening in

3611
02:33:41,270 --> 02:33:38,960
and passing that information onto

3612
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:41,280
facebook we know big tech collaborates

3613
02:33:45,830 --> 02:33:42,800
with amongst itself

3614
02:33:47,590 --> 02:33:45,840
is it a monopoly i don't know um and we

3615
02:33:48,870 --> 02:33:47,600
also know that big tech is probably

3616
02:33:50,150 --> 02:33:48,880
going to get broken up in the near

3617
02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:50,160
future i think

3618
02:33:54,950 --> 02:33:52,240
but they are listing it and we have to

3619
02:33:56,870 --> 02:33:54,960
assume that now jimmy i play games

3620
02:33:59,349 --> 02:33:56,880
i play games with my alexa around the

3621
02:34:00,309 --> 02:33:59,359
house i play games with ais and i test

3622
02:34:02,710 --> 02:34:00,319
it all the time

3623
02:34:04,389 --> 02:34:02,720
right for a number of reasons i remember

3624
02:34:05,429 --> 02:34:04,399
i was on the phone to the british

3625
02:34:07,510 --> 02:34:05,439
consulate once

3626
02:34:08,870 --> 02:34:07,520
and i was in the mountains jimmy i was

3627
02:34:11,190 --> 02:34:08,880
at 8 000 feet

3628
02:34:12,150 --> 02:34:11,200
it was a snowy day there was six foot of

3629
02:34:13,830 --> 02:34:12,160
snow everywhere

3630
02:34:16,150 --> 02:34:13,840
there was no traffic other than the

3631
02:34:17,429 --> 02:34:16,160
trees and maybe the birds

3632
02:34:20,389 --> 02:34:17,439
and i'm on the phone to the british

3633
02:34:23,830 --> 02:34:20,399
consulate and all of a sudden a sheriff

3634
02:34:26,950 --> 02:34:23,840
drives past the house

3635
02:34:28,870 --> 02:34:26,960
i then ask them are you listening in

3636
02:34:30,790 --> 02:34:28,880
and they said no matthew you're not that

3637
02:34:33,590 --> 02:34:30,800
important which is fine

3638
02:34:35,990 --> 02:34:33,600
but you never know jimmy there's too

3639
02:34:39,349 --> 02:34:36,000
many consequences going on on big tech

3640
02:34:42,830 --> 02:34:39,359
platforms at the moment how safe is

3641
02:34:45,510 --> 02:34:42,840
uh how safe is

3642
02:34:48,870 --> 02:34:45,520
android how safe is that

3643
02:34:51,190 --> 02:34:48,880
operating system because it is

3644
02:34:52,550 --> 02:34:51,200
running the internet of things it's

3645
02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:52,560
running your refrigerator

3646
02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:55,600
it's running your you know uh that

3647
02:35:01,830 --> 02:34:58,720
that is it that's what's out there uh

3648
02:35:04,790 --> 02:35:01,840
that is the internet of things um

3649
02:35:06,230 --> 02:35:04,800
it seems like it's too simple of a chunk

3650
02:35:08,950 --> 02:35:06,240
of software

3651
02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:08,960
it's not windows 10 right it's not some

3652
02:35:12,950 --> 02:35:10,720
server software

3653
02:35:14,389 --> 02:35:12,960
uh with with heavy protections in it

3654
02:35:17,349 --> 02:35:14,399
it's very simple

3655
02:35:18,790 --> 02:35:17,359
i mean how complicated can software be

3656
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:18,800
that is running

3657
02:35:25,349 --> 02:35:22,000
uh you know my razor or my toothbrush

3658
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:25,359
right how safe is that and and could it

3659
02:35:30,790 --> 02:35:28,560
be uh exploited and

3660
02:35:33,110 --> 02:35:30,800
and everybody's refrigerators in the

3661
02:35:35,030 --> 02:35:33,120
country get shut down because somebody

3662
02:35:36,950 --> 02:35:35,040
some hackers just pissed off and having

3663
02:35:39,270 --> 02:35:36,960
a bad day

3664
02:35:41,670 --> 02:35:39,280
well we've just seen a big invasion from

3665
02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:41,680
abroad for government data being stolen

3666
02:35:44,710 --> 02:35:43,120
through a microsoft floor

3667
02:35:46,630 --> 02:35:44,720
we've just seen that so the answer is

3668
02:35:50,389 --> 02:35:46,640
yes it is open

3669
02:35:53,590 --> 02:35:50,399
to uh violation um so

3670
02:35:53,990 --> 02:35:53,600
i i use apple because it is i believe

3671
02:35:55,910 --> 02:35:54,000
it's it's

3672
02:35:58,150 --> 02:35:55,920
a better secure system than android

3673
02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:58,160
android's an open system which is great

3674
02:36:01,510 --> 02:36:00,960
but but it always has vulnerabilities

3675
02:36:03,190 --> 02:36:01,520
somewhere

3676
02:36:04,950 --> 02:36:03,200
and so does the apple system but

3677
02:36:05,830 --> 02:36:04,960
generally apple is more of a secure

3678
02:36:08,309 --> 02:36:05,840
system

3679
02:36:09,030 --> 02:36:08,319
and so if there's any of the companies

3680
02:36:13,190 --> 02:36:09,040
that i trust

3681
02:36:14,070 --> 02:36:13,200
junior because it's more of a secure

3682
02:36:16,950 --> 02:36:14,080
platform

3683
02:36:17,750 --> 02:36:16,960
than i believe android is because it's

3684
02:36:20,469 --> 02:36:17,760
controlled by

3685
02:36:22,309 --> 02:36:20,479
one corporation as opposed to being open

3686
02:36:24,870 --> 02:36:22,319
to many corporations so

3687
02:36:25,510 --> 02:36:24,880
i always go with apple and can we be

3688
02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:25,520
hacked

3689
02:36:30,870 --> 02:36:28,640
in terms of your razor absolutely easy

3690
02:36:32,469 --> 02:36:30,880
because what they'll do is they may

3691
02:36:33,270 --> 02:36:32,479
encrypt this is the problem probably

3692
02:36:35,750 --> 02:36:33,280
contract

3693
02:36:36,469 --> 02:36:35,760
uh sorry contact application tracing

3694
02:36:38,710 --> 02:36:36,479
jimmy

3695
02:36:39,670 --> 02:36:38,720
is they may encrypt the data on your

3696
02:36:41,830 --> 02:36:39,680
mobile phone

3697
02:36:43,429 --> 02:36:41,840
and they may encrypt it over the air to

3698
02:36:44,309 --> 02:36:43,439
the cell towers and to the back end

3699
02:36:46,790 --> 02:36:44,319
servers

3700
02:36:47,590 --> 02:36:46,800
but beyond that there's a whole set of

3701
02:36:51,429 --> 02:36:47,600
systems

3702
02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:51,439
that can be hacked into to take the data

3703
02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:53,200
out of that secure pipeline

3704
02:36:57,190 --> 02:36:55,600
so the answer is yeah absolutely i i

3705
02:37:01,510 --> 02:36:57,200
don't know if you caught this

3706
02:37:04,870 --> 02:37:02,870
i'm going to go on the record and say

3707
02:37:06,469 --> 02:37:04,880
this is probably the most disturbing

3708
02:37:10,630 --> 02:37:06,479
thing i've ever seen

3709
02:37:14,309 --> 02:37:10,640
on the internet period hands down

3710
02:37:15,429 --> 02:37:14,319
and it was probably five years old it's

3711
02:37:18,550 --> 02:37:15,439
a girl

3712
02:37:21,830 --> 02:37:18,560
in her bedroom and

3713
02:37:24,070 --> 02:37:21,840
somebody had hacked their

3714
02:37:25,349 --> 02:37:24,080
monitor system and camera system in the

3715
02:37:28,389 --> 02:37:25,359
house

3716
02:37:32,309 --> 02:37:28,399
and this guy is looking at

3717
02:37:35,349 --> 02:37:32,319
this little girl and telling her

3718
02:37:38,550 --> 02:37:35,359
that there is no santa claus right

3719
02:37:41,910 --> 02:37:38,560
and messing with their heads now i

3720
02:37:43,990 --> 02:37:41,920
that now it it that right there if you

3721
02:37:46,070 --> 02:37:44,000
just take the idea of that

3722
02:37:47,670 --> 02:37:46,080
and the ability to do that and what is

3723
02:37:49,750 --> 02:37:47,680
actually going on

3724
02:37:51,349 --> 02:37:49,760
that is potentially the scariest thing

3725
02:37:54,389 --> 02:37:51,359
ever but it's

3726
02:37:56,790 --> 02:37:54,399
very easy for somebody to do

3727
02:37:59,590 --> 02:37:56,800
if they want to do it they just have the

3728
02:38:03,030 --> 02:37:59,600
motivation right

3729
02:38:05,910 --> 02:38:03,040
yeah so uh that is horrific

3730
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:05,920
and and so this is why i believe it's

3731
02:38:09,590 --> 02:38:08,080
important to have a personalized ai that

3732
02:38:10,870 --> 02:38:09,600
would have been a digital guardian for

3733
02:38:14,309 --> 02:38:10,880
that young child

3734
02:38:15,590 --> 02:38:14,319
push back against the other ai that was

3735
02:38:18,870 --> 02:38:15,600
violating her

3736
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:18,880
called in the digital ai policeman taken

3737
02:38:21,270 --> 02:38:19,520
his ai

3738
02:38:22,710 --> 02:38:21,280
straight to digital courts and

3739
02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:22,720
prosecuted that ai

3740
02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:26,080
and prosecuted him so you know ai can be

3741
02:38:29,110 --> 02:38:27,120
used to protect us

3742
02:38:31,590 --> 02:38:29,120
but jimmy you're right there are real

3743
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:31,600
challenges because

3744
02:38:39,349 --> 02:38:34,640
everything's hackable more or less oh

3745
02:38:41,349 --> 02:38:39,359
when um uh are you a fan of black mirror

3746
02:38:43,349 --> 02:38:41,359
i've seen some black mirror it's pretty

3747
02:38:46,550 --> 02:38:43,359
cool actually yeah

3748
02:38:48,870 --> 02:38:46,560
it is um it's fun it's

3749
02:38:50,790 --> 02:38:48,880
great i love i love science fiction i

3750
02:38:52,630 --> 02:38:50,800
love fiction i love the challenges i

3751
02:38:56,550 --> 02:38:52,640
love technology

3752
02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:56,560
but when you watch black mirror i see it

3753
02:39:03,910 --> 02:39:00,080
more as a non-fiction

3754
02:39:04,870 --> 02:39:03,920
documentary you know i look at it like

3755
02:39:08,309 --> 02:39:04,880
that

3756
02:39:11,030 --> 02:39:08,319
as a warning to the future

3757
02:39:11,990 --> 02:39:11,040
with its deep philosophical parts in it

3758
02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:12,000
as well

3759
02:39:16,070 --> 02:39:15,040
and where technology is taking us and

3760
02:39:18,389 --> 02:39:16,080
it's actually

3761
02:39:19,270 --> 02:39:18,399
quite scary if you just look at the

3762
02:39:22,389 --> 02:39:19,280
reality

3763
02:39:26,150 --> 02:39:22,399
side of it is that enough to start to

3764
02:39:28,469 --> 02:39:26,160
warn people through entertainment

3765
02:39:30,469 --> 02:39:28,479
yes absolutely i think it was a black

3766
02:39:32,950 --> 02:39:30,479
mirror episode with the

3767
02:39:34,550 --> 02:39:32,960
lady who had the social score wasn't it

3768
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:34,560
yes and she was trying

3769
02:39:38,230 --> 02:39:36,800
right right that's a great example that

3770
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:38,240
happens in china jimmy

3771
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:41,680
that's a reality now the question is

3772
02:39:46,870 --> 02:39:43,840
what is big tech doing and what's his

3773
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:46,880
agenda to take us down the same route

3774
02:39:50,550 --> 02:39:49,120
um you know she she was trying everybody

3775
02:39:52,309 --> 02:39:50,560
had a social score didn't they

3776
02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:52,319
and she was trying to improve to get to

3777
02:39:55,590 --> 02:39:54,240
the next level and then lots of events

3778
02:39:58,790 --> 02:39:55,600
happened where she ended up

3779
02:40:01,990 --> 02:39:58,800
basically homeless and homeless right

3780
02:40:03,590 --> 02:40:02,000
she was trying to get to a wedding

3781
02:40:05,910 --> 02:40:03,600
that was it yeah and she gave a great

3782
02:40:07,590 --> 02:40:05,920
speech yeah she gave a great speech at

3783
02:40:09,750 --> 02:40:07,600
the wedding that was awesome

3784
02:40:11,990 --> 02:40:09,760
um and what did she do what was

3785
02:40:15,030 --> 02:40:12,000
interesting in that

3786
02:40:18,550 --> 02:40:15,040
um she runs in

3787
02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:18,560
to a truck driver who is

3788
02:40:25,030 --> 02:40:21,600
essentially you the truck driver

3789
02:40:28,309 --> 02:40:25,040
had removed themselves

3790
02:40:31,349 --> 02:40:28,319
out of the electronic world and

3791
02:40:34,550 --> 02:40:31,359
was roaming free driving a truck

3792
02:40:35,910 --> 02:40:34,560
and wasn't bound to technology like you

3793
02:40:39,429 --> 02:40:35,920
taking your walks

3794
02:40:41,269 --> 02:40:39,439
right right and that's and that was the

3795
02:40:43,590 --> 02:40:41,279
message right there

3796
02:40:44,389 --> 02:40:43,600
i i'm just wondering yeah i'm just

3797
02:40:47,110 --> 02:40:44,399
wondering

3798
02:40:50,710 --> 02:40:47,120
who listens who watches that and walks

3799
02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:50,720
away with lesson learned

3800
02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:52,240
well i think it's a great lesson learned

3801
02:40:54,710 --> 02:40:54,240
and she rediscovered her humanity didn't

3802
02:40:59,750 --> 02:40:54,720
she

3803
02:41:02,389 --> 02:40:59,760
control paradigm

3804
02:41:02,870 --> 02:41:02,399
of the social score status from big tech

3805
02:41:05,429 --> 02:41:02,880
now

3806
02:41:06,070 --> 02:41:05,439
um and there's a there's another part to

3807
02:41:08,710 --> 02:41:06,080
this

3808
02:41:10,469 --> 02:41:08,720
um and and thank you we just i blew

3809
02:41:11,990 --> 02:41:10,479
through the commercial break

3810
02:41:13,510 --> 02:41:12,000
uh i'm just letting everybody know

3811
02:41:14,389 --> 02:41:13,520
you're still gonna hear the commercials

3812
02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:14,399
don't think

3813
02:41:19,030 --> 02:41:15,760
uh that you're going to get away from

3814
02:41:22,309 --> 02:41:19,040
that but there's another part to this

3815
02:41:26,150 --> 02:41:22,319
where fear is

3816
02:41:26,790 --> 02:41:26,160
control we have learned that over 5 000

3817
02:41:30,710 --> 02:41:26,800
years

3818
02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:30,720
of a civilized uh towns

3819
02:41:38,389 --> 02:41:35,040
and and leaders fear is control

3820
02:41:41,429 --> 02:41:38,399
fear is a way to continue life

3821
02:41:44,150 --> 02:41:41,439
because you're controlling fear

3822
02:41:44,790 --> 02:41:44,160
is also what is driving the internet

3823
02:41:46,870 --> 02:41:44,800
today

3824
02:41:48,790 --> 02:41:46,880
and it is driving commercials it's

3825
02:41:50,870 --> 02:41:48,800
driving cnn

3826
02:41:52,070 --> 02:41:50,880
and and everything else that is out

3827
02:41:55,910 --> 02:41:52,080
there

3828
02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:55,920
happiness doesn't sell

3829
02:41:59,670 --> 02:41:58,479
the internet knows this too as well

3830
02:42:02,710 --> 02:41:59,680
happiness

3831
02:42:03,190 --> 02:42:02,720
doesn't sell your book is a happy book i

3832
02:42:06,630 --> 02:42:03,200
love it

3833
02:42:07,510 --> 02:42:06,640
i i i have said a million times on the

3834
02:42:09,590 --> 02:42:07,520
show matthew

3835
02:42:10,950 --> 02:42:09,600
i live my life with flowers hanging out

3836
02:42:14,950 --> 02:42:10,960
of my pockets

3837
02:42:20,230 --> 02:42:14,960
that's the way i live my life right

3838
02:42:25,429 --> 02:42:23,269
so we could say that uh selling

3839
02:42:26,550 --> 02:42:25,439
uh peace is actually the biggest

3840
02:42:28,150 --> 02:42:26,560
phenomenon in the world

3841
02:42:29,910 --> 02:42:28,160
like for example buddhism it's a great

3842
02:42:30,630 --> 02:42:29,920
market machine because it sells peace

3843
02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:30,640
right

3844
02:42:35,910 --> 02:42:33,760
so but um fear

3845
02:42:36,790 --> 02:42:35,920
does is is probably the biggest driver

3846
02:42:38,870 --> 02:42:36,800
for selling

3847
02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:38,880
isn't it it's that fear of missing out

3848
02:42:43,429 --> 02:42:40,720
what do they call it fomo or something

3849
02:42:45,349 --> 02:42:43,439
yes yes and right it's like you need a

3850
02:42:46,630 --> 02:42:45,359
beer now because you don't have a beer

3851
02:42:48,230 --> 02:42:46,640
and therefore you're missing out on a

3852
02:42:49,670 --> 02:42:48,240
beer and it makes you a man because

3853
02:42:51,269 --> 02:42:49,680
you're watching the football game blah

3854
02:42:52,870 --> 02:42:51,279
blah blah blah blah right

3855
02:42:54,550 --> 02:42:52,880
or you need these shoes because they're

3856
02:42:57,670 --> 02:42:54,560
the latest shoes from this

3857
02:42:58,150 --> 02:42:57,680
brand person that is someone you aspire

3858
02:42:59,830 --> 02:42:58,160
to be

3859
02:43:01,830 --> 02:42:59,840
rather than coming back into your own

3860
02:43:04,469 --> 02:43:01,840
sovereignty and celebrating who you are

3861
02:43:05,190 --> 02:43:04,479
you're absolutely right apart from peace

3862
02:43:07,030 --> 02:43:05,200
fear

3863
02:43:09,030 --> 02:43:07,040
is the biggest seller in the world

3864
02:43:12,870 --> 02:43:09,040
matthew thank you so much

3865
02:43:14,790 --> 02:43:12,880
how can everybody reach out to you

3866
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:14,800
they can reach out to me on ai

3867
02:43:19,630 --> 02:43:16,960
ethics.world or they can write to me

3868
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:19,640
at my uh matthew of

3869
02:43:23,830 --> 02:43:21,040
matthewjamesbailey.com

3870
02:43:24,630 --> 02:43:23,840
thank you so much and i do want to have

3871
02:43:27,750 --> 02:43:24,640
you on

3872
02:43:28,230 --> 02:43:27,760
again uh to uh cover the internet of

3873
02:43:31,429 --> 02:43:28,240
things

3874
02:43:35,110 --> 02:43:31,439
which is uh along with ai

3875
02:43:37,990 --> 02:43:35,120
probably the biggest this is

3876
02:43:38,630 --> 02:43:38,000
talking about driving markets driving

3877
02:43:41,830 --> 02:43:38,640
money

3878
02:43:43,910 --> 02:43:41,840
driving income you if you want a startup

3879
02:43:44,469 --> 02:43:43,920
company right now it's the internet of

3880
02:43:47,510 --> 02:43:44,479
things

3881
02:43:49,349 --> 02:43:47,520
how are you getting involved in that and

3882
02:43:50,790 --> 02:43:49,359
uh when you look at the internet of

3883
02:43:54,389 --> 02:43:50,800
things that

3884
02:43:55,590 --> 02:43:54,399
is the basis of nearly all of the sales

3885
02:43:57,910 --> 02:43:55,600
on amazon

3886
02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:57,920
today it's all the internet of things

3887
02:44:01,910 --> 02:43:59,040
everything is connected

3888
02:44:03,269 --> 02:44:01,920
everything that is where that is the

3889
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:03,279
explosion

3890
02:44:08,790 --> 02:44:06,960
of selling more tvs and and your smart

3891
02:44:10,309 --> 02:44:08,800
watchers to your smart shoes

3892
02:44:12,790 --> 02:44:10,319
you're smart everything everything is

3893
02:44:13,750 --> 02:44:12,800
smart today um so i want to bring you

3894
02:44:15,830 --> 02:44:13,760
back to cover

3895
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:15,840
that too as well thank you so much what

3896
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:18,880
a great conversation tonight matthew

3897
02:44:22,550 --> 02:44:20,720
thank you very much jimmy i've enjoyed

3898
02:44:24,469 --> 02:44:22,560
it thank you very very much

3899
02:44:26,150 --> 02:44:24,479
and i want to uh i'm just going to say

3900
02:44:29,349 --> 02:44:26,160
this really quick i want to uh

3901
02:44:32,150 --> 02:44:29,359
thank our good friend jay widener uh

3902
02:44:33,830 --> 02:44:32,160
for this evening too as well and i know

3903
02:44:36,870 --> 02:44:33,840
he's listening thank you jay

3904
02:44:38,710 --> 02:44:36,880
thank you matthew behave and be well and

3905
02:44:40,550 --> 02:44:38,720
uh go change the world my man you're

3906
02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:40,560
doing a good job

3907
02:44:44,790 --> 02:44:42,479
thanks very much jimmy great

3908
02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:44,800
conversation matthew bailey it's

3909
02:44:49,429 --> 02:44:47,680
ai ethics dot world the links are over

3910
02:44:52,309 --> 02:44:49,439
at jimmychurchradio.com

3911
02:44:53,030 --> 02:44:52,319
and matthewjamesbailey.com links are

3912
02:44:57,110 --> 02:44:53,040
over there

3913
02:44:59,429 --> 02:44:57,120
the book is inventing world 3.0

3914
02:45:00,469 --> 02:44:59,439
evolutionary ethics for artificial

3915
02:45:01,830 --> 02:45:00,479
intelligence

3916
02:45:04,230 --> 02:45:01,840
i'm yours jimmy church i'm going to take

3917
02:45:15,960 --> 02:45:04,240
a quick break and i'll be right back

3918
02:45:15,970 --> 02:45:25,190
[Music]

3919
02:45:29,429 --> 02:45:27,510
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3920
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3921
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3995
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3996
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3997
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3998
02:49:06,070 --> 02:49:04,070
welcome back faded black i am your host

3999
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jimmy church what a great conversation

4000
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tonight

4001
02:49:13,349 --> 02:49:10,640
the book is a page turner it's

4002
02:49:14,630 --> 02:49:13,359
really really well done embedding world

4003
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3.0

4004
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and uh there it is and you need to get

4005
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yourself a copy of this

4006
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um and you know going back to

4007
02:49:25,190 --> 02:49:24,240
uh some of the documentaries and and

4008
02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:25,200
things that

4009
02:49:31,030 --> 02:49:28,240
uh i have suggested uh for

4010
02:49:32,150 --> 02:49:31,040
for all of you to go and just become

4011
02:49:34,630 --> 02:49:32,160
aware

4012
02:49:37,110 --> 02:49:34,640
of what is actually going on out there

4013
02:49:40,630 --> 02:49:37,120
artificial intelligence

4014
02:49:41,680 --> 02:49:40,640
is is part of our lives today and

4015
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:41,690
and if you

4016
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:44,240
[Music]

4017
02:49:50,070 --> 02:49:47,520
if you want to question that uh

4018
02:49:50,790 --> 02:49:50,080
and its involvement in everything that

4019
02:49:53,590 --> 02:49:50,800
we do

4020
02:49:53,990 --> 02:49:53,600
right now and and to what degree it is

4021
02:49:57,269 --> 02:49:54,000
it's

4022
02:50:00,550 --> 02:49:57,279
every aspect of of your life every click

4023
02:50:03,590 --> 02:50:00,560
um everything that you do um

4024
02:50:06,790 --> 02:50:03,600
the database that is built around you

4025
02:50:11,110 --> 02:50:06,800
and every single citizen of

4026
02:50:14,150 --> 02:50:11,120
the united states ev everybody

4027
02:50:17,750 --> 02:50:14,160
everybody here has got

4028
02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:17,760
a huge dossier that is built and added

4029
02:50:21,349 --> 02:50:18,160
to

4030
02:50:22,230 --> 02:50:21,359
every single day and the artificial

4031
02:50:25,269 --> 02:50:22,240
intelligence

4032
02:50:27,510 --> 02:50:25,279
out there which works tirelessly

4033
02:50:28,309 --> 02:50:27,520
this is the fascinating part about all

4034
02:50:32,230 --> 02:50:28,319
of this

4035
02:50:35,389 --> 02:50:32,240
is that it is able to and does

4036
02:50:40,870 --> 02:50:35,399
literally analyze

4037
02:50:44,389 --> 02:50:40,880
everybody there's no way to escape it

4038
02:50:47,750 --> 02:50:44,399
everything is analyzed and looked at

4039
02:50:50,950 --> 02:50:47,760
all of it everybody

4040
02:50:54,469 --> 02:50:50,960
you are not uh uh you are

4041
02:50:57,670 --> 02:50:54,479
not isolated you are not unique

4042
02:50:59,990 --> 02:50:57,680
don't even think that that is the

4043
02:51:03,349 --> 02:51:00,000
craziest part about all of this

4044
02:51:06,389 --> 02:51:03,359
and it is able to um not only

4045
02:51:08,309 --> 02:51:06,399
once this is built around you and it

4046
02:51:10,630 --> 02:51:08,319
is and and the amount of data i'm

4047
02:51:14,150 --> 02:51:10,640
talking about terabytes

4048
02:51:14,950 --> 02:51:14,160
on you you've got a you've got a file

4049
02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:14,960
that

4050
02:51:18,710 --> 02:51:17,680
you know and for uh the suggestion out

4051
02:51:23,030 --> 02:51:18,720
there

4052
02:51:23,429 --> 02:51:23,040
uh to be the internet knows more about

4053
02:51:29,750 --> 02:51:23,439
you

4054
02:51:33,830 --> 02:51:29,760
100 true that is a

4055
02:51:36,150 --> 02:51:33,840
fact it's a fact and

4056
02:51:38,309 --> 02:51:36,160
down to the individual level when you

4057
02:51:39,910 --> 02:51:38,319
look at 350 million people in this

4058
02:51:43,030 --> 02:51:39,920
country

4059
02:51:46,790 --> 02:51:43,040
down to the individual your

4060
02:51:50,870 --> 02:51:46,800
existence on the internet is

4061
02:51:53,429 --> 02:51:50,880
just your experience

4062
02:51:55,750 --> 02:51:53,439
nobody else has the experience that you

4063
02:51:56,950 --> 02:51:55,760
do nobody else has got the news feed

4064
02:51:59,590 --> 02:51:56,960
that you do

4065
02:52:02,790 --> 02:51:59,600
nobody else gets the advertising that

4066
02:52:06,070 --> 02:52:02,800
you do nobody else gets the projections

4067
02:52:10,070 --> 02:52:06,080
then you what is it that you

4068
02:52:14,630 --> 02:52:10,080
want to read it knows what you want to

4069
02:52:18,230 --> 02:52:14,640
see and it gives that to you and you

4070
02:52:21,349 --> 02:52:18,240
think that everybody else is watching

4071
02:52:23,269 --> 02:52:21,359
channel 7 at that moment and everybody's

4072
02:52:28,550 --> 02:52:23,279
getting the same information

4073
02:52:32,070 --> 02:52:28,560
no it is completely laser focused on you

4074
02:52:34,150 --> 02:52:32,080
you live in a bubble

4075
02:52:36,469 --> 02:52:34,160
it doesn't matter who you are it it

4076
02:52:39,590 --> 02:52:36,479
doesn't matter if you think

4077
02:52:42,870 --> 02:52:39,600
that uh your thought

4078
02:52:46,550 --> 02:52:42,880
patterns the way that you look at life

4079
02:52:49,990 --> 02:52:46,560
and everything else everything and it's

4080
02:52:54,230 --> 02:52:50,000
it's politics it's religion it's food

4081
02:52:57,510 --> 02:52:54,240
it's products everything

4082
02:52:59,670 --> 02:52:57,520
you think that everybody else thinks the

4083
02:53:02,550 --> 02:52:59,680
way that you do

4084
02:53:03,990 --> 02:53:02,560
that's not the way that it is it is not

4085
02:53:07,670 --> 02:53:04,000
it is not

4086
02:53:11,110 --> 02:53:07,680
and and you develop a thought pattern

4087
02:53:13,429 --> 02:53:11,120
you develop a lifestyle you develop

4088
02:53:15,269 --> 02:53:13,439
questions and reactions and statements

4089
02:53:19,030 --> 02:53:15,279
in your conversations

4090
02:53:21,670 --> 02:53:19,040
that you have with everybody thinking

4091
02:53:22,550 --> 02:53:21,680
thinking that everybody else understands

4092
02:53:25,670 --> 02:53:22,560
you

4093
02:53:29,269 --> 02:53:25,680
and that's not what is going

4094
02:53:29,590 --> 02:53:29,279
on it's simply not it's simply not you

4095
02:53:33,830 --> 02:53:29,600
think

4096
02:53:36,630 --> 02:53:33,840
informed the most

4097
02:53:37,030 --> 02:53:36,640
that you've got it all together and it

4098
02:53:40,630 --> 02:53:37,040
and

4099
02:53:43,830 --> 02:53:40,640
it is it is a computer generated

4100
02:53:45,990 --> 02:53:43,840
reality that's it

4101
02:53:47,750 --> 02:53:46,000
and it ventures out into the programming

4102
02:53:48,150 --> 02:53:47,760
that you're watching because that is

4103
02:53:52,070 --> 02:53:48,160
this

4104
02:53:53,910 --> 02:53:52,080
and and and you've developed a friends

4105
02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:53,920
and relationships and things on the

4106
02:53:57,670 --> 02:53:54,640
internet

4107
02:53:58,950 --> 02:53:57,680
that's all brought to you because of

4108
02:54:00,870 --> 02:53:58,960
your habits

4109
02:54:02,710 --> 02:54:00,880
and the things that you say the things

4110
02:54:05,750 --> 02:54:02,720
that you type

4111
02:54:06,950 --> 02:54:05,760
the things that you post all of that is

4112
02:54:10,070 --> 02:54:06,960
analyzed

4113
02:54:12,309 --> 02:54:10,080
all of it all of the words

4114
02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:12,319
all of the personality traits everything

4115
02:54:18,070 --> 02:54:14,240
and the next thing you know you're in

4116
02:54:20,230 --> 02:54:18,080
this bubble and they know how to

4117
02:54:22,070 --> 02:54:20,240
manipulate it and they know more about

4118
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:22,080
you than you do

4119
02:54:25,750 --> 02:54:25,200
that's it that is the facts and that's

4120
02:54:29,269 --> 02:54:25,760
where we

4121
02:54:32,710 --> 02:54:29,279
are today how do we get ethics back

4122
02:54:34,630 --> 02:54:32,720
into to prevent all of this

4123
02:54:36,469 --> 02:54:34,640
i don't know how to unwind it i don't

4124
02:54:39,269 --> 02:54:36,479
know we went down

4125
02:54:40,950 --> 02:54:39,279
uh the dark path very very quickly it

4126
02:54:43,269 --> 02:54:40,960
was instantaneous

4127
02:54:45,030 --> 02:54:43,279
we went right to the edge of the cliff

4128
02:54:47,429 --> 02:54:45,040
in the dark

4129
02:54:48,630 --> 02:54:47,439
not knowing where this was going to take

4130
02:54:51,670 --> 02:54:48,640
us and we went

4131
02:54:54,710 --> 02:54:51,680
right there fast

4132
02:54:56,710 --> 02:54:54,720
so can we undo it just as quickly

4133
02:54:57,910 --> 02:54:56,720
i don't know let's go to the phones hi

4134
02:54:59,670 --> 02:54:57,920
you're live on fade to black who's

4135
02:55:02,710 --> 02:54:59,680
calling

4136
02:55:04,150 --> 02:55:02,720
hi jimmy it's deb hi deb the girl that

4137
02:55:08,150 --> 02:55:04,160
lives in a box

4138
02:55:10,710 --> 02:55:08,160
yeah no not anymore

4139
02:55:13,429 --> 02:55:10,720
no you know what i i'm sorry go ahead

4140
02:55:16,550 --> 02:55:13,439
how's your bubble treating you

4141
02:55:18,790 --> 02:55:16,560
my bubble's burst it's been burst

4142
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:18,800
um because i've followed a lot of the

4143
02:55:21,750 --> 02:55:20,080
stuff that you know

4144
02:55:23,510 --> 02:55:21,760
you've told us about a lot of this i

4145
02:55:26,309 --> 02:55:23,520
watched the social dilemma i also

4146
02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:26,319
watched a documentary called shadowgate

4147
02:55:30,469 --> 02:55:28,720
which was done by two nsa whistleblowers

4148
02:55:32,630 --> 02:55:30,479
who used to write the code and work for

4149
02:55:34,070 --> 02:55:32,640
john brennan and they came out and

4150
02:55:35,670 --> 02:55:34,080
told everything about how they

4151
02:55:37,670 --> 02:55:35,680
originated all this and it goes much

4152
02:55:40,070 --> 02:55:37,680
deeper than social dilemma

4153
02:55:41,990 --> 02:55:40,080
and i re and i tweeted it out one night

4154
02:55:43,670 --> 02:55:42,000
for the fader knots to watch and i'll

4155
02:55:44,790 --> 02:55:43,680
retweet it again if anyone's interested

4156
02:55:47,670 --> 02:55:44,800
in looking at it

4157
02:55:49,190 --> 02:55:47,680
but yeah so we've we've been

4158
02:55:52,230 --> 02:55:49,200
manipulating for

4159
02:55:56,950 --> 02:55:52,240
so long and

4160
02:55:58,710 --> 02:55:56,960
one of the tips i recently got was to

4161
02:56:01,349 --> 02:55:58,720
do things and google things that you

4162
02:56:03,830 --> 02:56:01,359
normally wouldn't do for you

4163
02:56:05,190 --> 02:56:03,840
like google kids toys and things that

4164
02:56:06,550 --> 02:56:05,200
you're not interested in because that

4165
02:56:08,309 --> 02:56:06,560
will help them

4166
02:56:10,950 --> 02:56:08,319
or that will mess them up when they're

4167
02:56:14,469 --> 02:56:10,960
trying to profile you

4168
02:56:16,469 --> 02:56:14,479
so go down as you normally wouldn't go

4169
02:56:18,950 --> 02:56:16,479
and it'll mess up their algorithms when

4170
02:56:20,550 --> 02:56:18,960
they're trying to profile you

4171
02:56:23,190 --> 02:56:20,560
which i thought was kind of interesting

4172
02:56:25,670 --> 02:56:23,200
advice so i've started doing it

4173
02:56:27,190 --> 02:56:25,680
i've been doing that for a long time um

4174
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:27,200
i i do that

4175
02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:30,720
for uh for my own reasons

4176
02:56:35,750 --> 02:56:34,240
but uh uh it's it's interesting for me

4177
02:56:39,030 --> 02:56:35,760
to see

4178
02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:39,040
uh the algorithm respond to certain

4179
02:56:45,110 --> 02:56:41,439
things that i go out there and do

4180
02:56:48,550 --> 02:56:45,120
um i i i know that uh the

4181
02:56:49,429 --> 02:56:48,560
the internet and the ai must really trip

4182
02:56:52,630 --> 02:56:49,439
on somebody

4183
02:56:56,870 --> 02:56:52,640
like me because i don't

4184
02:57:00,389 --> 02:56:56,880
go out into strange areas

4185
02:57:03,910 --> 02:57:00,399
and so i don't do any of that and

4186
02:57:07,670 --> 02:57:03,920
most of um how do i say this

4187
02:57:11,030 --> 02:57:07,680
i don't i don't get i i don't click

4188
02:57:14,469 --> 02:57:11,040
i don't click i never ever ever

4189
02:57:15,910 --> 02:57:14,479
ever ever click on any ad in any news

4190
02:57:18,630 --> 02:57:15,920
feed

4191
02:57:19,349 --> 02:57:18,640
not not even once not even once it's

4192
02:57:22,550 --> 02:57:19,359
worthless

4193
02:57:23,429 --> 02:57:22,560
to them and what i will do is i will

4194
02:57:26,550 --> 02:57:23,439
constantly

4195
02:57:29,349 --> 02:57:26,560
mess with it um uh

4196
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:29,359
and maybe it's a watch ad and i'll

4197
02:57:33,590 --> 02:57:31,840
literally say i don't want to see this

4198
02:57:34,870 --> 02:57:33,600
and it's thrown them off because they

4199
02:57:36,790 --> 02:57:34,880
know i'm going to watch

4200
02:57:38,230 --> 02:57:36,800
websites and i'm looking at watches

4201
02:57:40,070 --> 02:57:38,240
right or guitars

4202
02:57:41,510 --> 02:57:40,080
right but i'll throw the algorithm off

4203
02:57:42,950 --> 02:57:41,520
i'm not interested i'm not

4204
02:57:44,950 --> 02:57:42,960
interested i don't want to see this i

4205
02:57:46,469 --> 02:57:44,960
don't and sometimes i'll just go down my

4206
02:57:49,030 --> 02:57:46,479
news feed and i'll click on

4207
02:57:50,309 --> 02:57:49,040
every ad and say i don't want this i

4208
02:57:51,910 --> 02:57:50,319
don't want this i don't want this i

4209
02:57:55,510 --> 02:57:51,920
don't want this i'll spend a

4210
02:57:59,030 --> 02:57:55,520
a half hour doing that just just

4211
02:58:02,469 --> 02:57:59,040
just to mess with it that's right

4212
02:58:04,790 --> 02:58:02,479
ten steps ahead fight back know that you

4213
02:58:06,870 --> 02:58:04,800
know i think

4214
02:58:08,469 --> 02:58:06,880
i think that uh our our tvs and

4215
02:58:11,030 --> 02:58:08,479
everything they don't only listen to us

4216
02:58:12,870 --> 02:58:11,040
i think they can see us too

4217
02:58:14,389 --> 02:58:12,880
they they're well like you illustrated

4218
02:58:16,309 --> 02:58:14,399
with the little girl

4219
02:58:17,590 --> 02:58:16,319
in the bedroom and he was watching her

4220
02:58:18,469 --> 02:58:17,600
and then talking to her telling her

4221
02:58:21,590 --> 02:58:18,479
about santa

4222
02:58:22,870 --> 02:58:21,600
so they can see us too yeah yeah i've

4223
02:58:26,230 --> 02:58:22,880
got black tape on

4224
02:58:27,510 --> 02:58:26,240
everything um uh i don't have any

4225
02:58:30,070 --> 02:58:27,520
cameras exposed

4226
02:58:30,630 --> 02:58:30,080
anywhere i can you know i've i could

4227
02:58:33,349 --> 02:58:30,640
almost

4228
02:58:35,349 --> 02:58:33,359
i can't right now but uh on these two

4229
02:58:38,790 --> 02:58:35,359
laptops right here the cameras have

4230
02:58:40,870 --> 02:58:38,800
black tape over them um i've got

4231
02:58:42,150 --> 02:58:40,880
these three cameras that are sitting

4232
02:58:45,030 --> 02:58:42,160
over here

4233
02:58:46,790 --> 02:58:45,040
and i cover those uh when i'm not on the

4234
02:58:48,630 --> 02:58:46,800
air you know i don't

4235
02:58:50,870 --> 02:58:48,640
i don't want to be sitting here in the

4236
02:58:52,309 --> 02:58:50,880
bunker and and have somebody hack in or

4237
02:58:55,670 --> 02:58:52,319
turn that stuff on

4238
02:58:57,590 --> 02:58:55,680
um but uh no that's that's it i i don't

4239
02:58:59,269 --> 02:58:57,600
play around with any of that

4240
02:59:01,510 --> 02:58:59,279
um i can't do anything about the

4241
02:59:02,790 --> 02:59:01,520
security system at our home i've got 15

4242
02:59:04,950 --> 02:59:02,800
seconds i gotta run

4243
02:59:06,710 --> 02:59:04,960
but the security system that runs to the

4244
02:59:09,269 --> 02:59:06,720
perimeter of our house

4245
02:59:10,150 --> 02:59:09,279
can't cover those i need those cameras

4246
02:59:12,630 --> 02:59:10,160
you know right

4247
02:59:14,630 --> 02:59:12,640
uh but other than that everything inside

4248
02:59:16,870 --> 02:59:14,640
of our home is not smart

4249
02:59:18,389 --> 02:59:16,880
i no i've i've gone the opposite

4250
02:59:20,950 --> 02:59:18,399
direction i i don't want

4251
02:59:23,190 --> 02:59:20,960
there is no alexa there are no smart

4252
02:59:25,190 --> 02:59:23,200
monitoring anything inside of our home

4253
02:59:26,230 --> 02:59:25,200
it doesn't exist and with that i gotta

4254
02:59:27,590 --> 02:59:26,240
run yeah

4255
02:59:29,429 --> 02:59:27,600
it keeps the feed out of your house hey

4256
02:59:32,710 --> 02:59:29,439
i'm going to tweet for you tonight jimmy

4257
02:59:34,630 --> 02:59:32,720
i had sent a voodoo doll um zuni doll

4258
02:59:36,710 --> 02:59:34,640
movie from a long time ago it's only 20

4259
02:59:38,710 --> 02:59:36,720
minutes long i want you to watch it

4260
02:59:39,990 --> 02:59:38,720
seriously it's great all right i'm

4261
02:59:43,190 --> 02:59:40,000
checking in have a good night

4262
02:59:46,070 --> 02:59:43,200
thank you so much and uh and now

4263
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:46,080
i've got to i've got to run i am now 20

4264
02:59:49,990 --> 02:59:47,680
seconds over

4265
02:59:53,030 --> 02:59:50,000
so let me get straight to it and just

4266
02:59:55,190 --> 02:59:53,040
say thank you to matthew bailey

4267
02:59:56,710 --> 02:59:55,200
great conversation tonight paid to

4268
02:59:58,389 --> 02:59:56,720
black's executive producers rita

4269
02:59:59,830 --> 02:59:58,399
kamarian shows produced by hill j paul

4270
03:00:01,830 --> 02:59:59,840
renee dennis and kevin

4271
03:00:03,910 --> 03:00:01,840
announcers are steve harder gene vettel

4272
03:00:05,750 --> 03:00:03,920
mark d cover webmasters through the geek

4273
03:00:08,710 --> 03:00:05,760
music doug aldridge

4274
03:00:10,630 --> 03:00:08,720
intro spaceboy spaceboymusic.com faded

4275
03:00:11,750 --> 03:00:10,640
black is produced by kjcr for the game

4276
03:00:14,870 --> 03:00:11,760
changer network

4277
03:00:17,429 --> 03:00:14,880
syndication is kgra the planet this

4278
03:00:19,030 --> 03:00:17,439
broadcast owned copyrighted 2021 by fade

4279
03:00:21,349 --> 03:00:19,040
to black in the game changer network

4280
03:00:22,870 --> 03:00:21,359
inc it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

4281
03:00:23,510 --> 03:00:22,880
copied or used anywhere in the known

4282
03:00:25,190 --> 03:00:23,520
universe

4283
03:00:26,550 --> 03:00:25,200
without written permission from page to

4284
03:00:28,469 --> 03:00:26,560
block of the game changer network i'm

4285
03:00:32,070 --> 03:00:28,479
your host jimmy church

4286
03:00:34,230 --> 03:00:32,080
tomorrow is thursday fader night

4287
03:00:36,150 --> 03:00:34,240
open lines all night long until then i

4288
03:00:38,300 --> 03:00:36,160
want everybody to be safe

4289
03:00:43,060 --> 03:00:38,310
it's time to fade to black

4290
03:00:45,680 --> 03:00:43,070
[Music]

4291
03:01:04,830 --> 03:00:45,690
[Applause]

4292
03:01:15,640 --> 03:01:06,020
so